Jesus Paid it all?!

I bet you have become accustomed to Christians describing Jesus on the cross with phrases like “purchased” or “paid” describing salvation. That through Christ on the cross, salvation was “bought” or “paid in full.” First, to be clear I don’t think the terminology is horrible, this conversation doesn’t mean much to me and I am certainly not “going to war” over anything in this conversation! I believe that as a light metaphor that this kind of phrase can have some truth to it, we make references all the time in day-to-day life with this sort of linguistic analogy. For instance, my son Will was playing soccer the other night in a recreational game on astroturf and made a heralding dive to strike the ball into the goal. After the game I noticed the giant carpet burn on his knee and saif to him, well you certainly paid for that one, but what a shot! No one really thinks that He actually paid money, that would be absurd; we simply mean that there is a cost associated. That is what the Bible means when it talks about what Jesus did at the cross. Yet too many people have turned a simple biblical metaphor into a theological doctrine, and I find it problematic.

There are better ways to communicate what Christ did for us on the cross than using descriptions like paid for or purchased. This gets into atonement theories (x44 has made several videos on this subject) and if you are reformed you might think this language is “correct”; but if you’re not reformed or a Calvinist, you might want to consider a better formation for your cross theology. Let me walk you through some things towards a better consideration.

Twice the apostle Paul informed believers at Corinth, “You were bought with a price.” In 1 Corinthians 6, Paul was making a passionate appeal against sexual immorality. He concluded his argument, stating, “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20, ESV). I quoted the ESV (which is a reformed translation if you didn’t know).  1 Peter 1:18–19 says,“For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And it was not paid with mere gold or silver, which lose their value. It was the precious blood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God” (NLT). We also have Jesus Himself saying that He came to give His life as a ransom for us (Matthew 20:28). We now belong to Him according to 1 Corinthians 7:22. Paul repeated this teaching in 1 Corinthians 7:23, notice however, the emphasis on spiritual freedom: “You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.” Believers are set free from the dominion of the world or sin through the death of Christ (Galatians 1:4). In this way you might say that spiritual freedom comes at the “price” of Christ’s sacrificial death on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Consequently, since we now belong to Christ, we must not let ourselves come under the control of other humans, Satan, principalities, or the world… we are or should completely be given to Jesus. 1 That is what we all can agree on right? I mean it is right out of the bible! So, there you have it. The Bible specifically uses words like ransom, paid, bought, price etc… So, I bet you are wondering why do I have issues with phrasing it that way?

In biblical theology, the concept of “ransom” is deeply intertwined with the themes of deliverance and salvation. The term “ransom” according to antiquity refers to the “price paid” to secure the release of someone from bondage or captivity. In general describing what Jesus accomplished through the cross this way is known as the ransom which theory teaches that the death of Christ was a ransom sacrifice, usually said to have been paid to Satan, in satisfaction for the bondage and debt on the souls of humanity as a result of inherited sin.2 Well as you might have perceived,

In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word “kopher” is often used to denote a ransom, particularly in the context of redeeming a person or property.3 For example, Exodus 21:30 discusses the payment of a ransom for the life of a person who has been sentenced to death: “If payment is demanded of him, he may redeem his life by paying the full amount demanded of him.” So there is a Hebraic understanding of transactional payment biblically that is associated with the term ransom, but the problem with thinking that way is that what Jesus does for us on the cross intentionally came with no strings attached, it is a free gift of Grace. What Christ did on the cross was a backwards kingdom dynamic, it was opposite of the world’s expectations. In other words, there wasn’t a physical price paid. This is very important. In the Exodus did Moses pay Pharaoh? Did God pay the spiritual powers he was warring against? NO. There was no payment made. The exodus foreshadows the cross and in the same way there wasn’t a payment made. Jesus didn’t have to pay off God and God didn’t pay Satan. Are you following me? So, phrase it this way is actually poor theology and nearly the opposite idea of what the text portrayed in the exodus and through the cross. Talking about inherited sin or original sin is one of the pillars of Calvinism and thus those that hold to a “ransom” theory are typically reformed. If you aren’t familiar with this conversation this video series will help. Although I do believe in a ransom motif in the exodus and through Jesus at the cross, I do not think framing it as transactional is good theology.

The definition of the word “ransom” has changed over time. At the time the New Testament was written before the end of the first century, it referred to the practice of capturing individuals and demanding their release, particularly in ancient times. In the ancient world it was almost never ties to money, it was based on threats of power and ruling.4 In this sense, Exodus portrays the ransom of the Hebrews quite well. But I certainly won’t deny that at times money was involved; but the emphasis should always be on freedom motive not the payment motive. When you really dive into this what you find is that in the ancient world ransom was relational. You demanded ransom because it was the right thing. It was to put your foot down and demand that an injustice be reconciled. In the Middle Ages and Reformation, the term evolved to usually describe payments made for the release of hostages, and it has also been used figuratively to describe any exorbitant payment or price demanded for something. The definition has certainly changed over time to be described less relational and has become more transactional. The biblical authors definition was relational not transactional, yet we have come to interpret it through our own modern lens as transactional.

Ransom in scripture should always be interpreted as a release of slaves giving freedom. This fits every context of verses that we see the word used in from Micah 6:4 to Isaiah 43:3. Isaiah 52:3 is very clear on this. God says he sold Israel for nothing, and they shall be ransomed/redeemed without payment. Isaiah 45:13 echoes the same thoughts. The point is that the word ransom biblically shouldn’t be used in a substitutionary sense. NT Wright and even the reformed scholar Leon Morris have made this clear. 5

The Greek helps us out here. ὑπέρ Huper (for) means for a benefit. That is what is used in nearly every context of Jesus giving up his life. Not anti (for) which would be in the place of or an exchange. 

When you try to frame the work of the cross as needing to buy someone out, it creates a transactional dynamic that isn’t part of grace and isn’t biblical. Now again, there are some elements that are transactional and that is why this is complicated and often misunderstood. Grace itself is a free gift, yet there is a benefactor understanding of reciprocity. When you give a gift there is no expectation for a payment, you freely give it. Yet in relationships of any kind there are some expectations. In the circle of Grace when Christ gave his life for you, the reciprocity is that you in turn give your life to him.6 But that didn’t actually cost money, there was no buyout, but there was a cost. When we think about Jesus transactionally it muddies the water. I am sure you have been told your whole life that everything costs something, or that if you want something that is worth anything it is going to cost you. In this regard, giving your life to Christ from a worldly sense will cost you everything, your life itself. But Jesus isn’t selling anything. When we frame grace as transactional it leaves us thinking what are we going to get out of Jesus or Christianity. What do we get from the deal? It points you in the wrong direction. With Jesus we don’t get, we give… Job was righteous because he had no expectations.7

To use transactional language cheapens the work of Jesus through the cross. God wasn’t negotiating with terrorists in the Exodus. He obliterated the spiritual powers at war. The exchange was allegiance, freedom, and liberation… no money was exchanged. But was there a cost? The Egyptian “world” certainly suffered. At the cross Jesus gave his life and it was brutal. But that shouldn’t be the emphasis of what Jesus did. In fact, it really shouldn’t be emphasized at all. Sometimes I don’t even like to use the word cross when describing Jesus. For instance, I prefer to say the work of Jesus not the work of the cross. The cross didn’t accomplish anything, Jesus did everything. The cross itself is a picture of barbaric humanity not the generous grace of Jesus, that should better be framed precisely through Christ himself. Yet I still think there is a place for the image of the cross. People should view it as the method to which Jesus did accomplish many things enabling complete life and freedom in Him.

What happened at the cross to Jesus was a result of religious hierarchy. The Jewish religious leaders tied into to the government corruption of the day essentially crucified Jesus. Did Jesus willfully “give his life?” Well, let’s not forget that he prayed for the cup to be passed. If there could have been another way through the father Jesus would have opted for it. Again, this is important in the text. What happened at the cross was brutal and unjust. Jesus turned the other cheek all the way to the grave. It is a picture of complete sacrifice and humility. But it shouldn’t be viewed theologically as transactional. We don’t know exactly why God allowed or used the cross to accomplish the victories that he did, but the fact is that is the way it unfolds. The ransom analogy should be viewed as redemption and freedom not monetary exchange. To view the cross as some kind of economic exchange isn’t accurate. God wasn’t paying or even appeasing Satan and Jesus wasn’t paying or appeasing God the father. Are you following? The trinity wasn’t broken at the cross.

It really becomes “cheap” when you frame it as a payment. For instance, what you are saying is that Jesus then gave his life to “buy” all of the lives who would “accept” him for all of time. That sounds good but think about it for a second. How much is Christ’s life really worth if you are exchanging it for all who believe for all of time, millions, maybe billions? It is actually devaluing him. Who wouldn’t make “that deal” if that is all it was. If I had the power and said to you – if you allow me to crucify you it would buy 10 people you deeply care about eternal salvation, I bet, you would do it. I would. Then if you say not just 10 but EVERYONE who believes it really makes it cheap doesn’t it? What Christ did on the cross shouldn’t be cheapened transactionally. It wasn’t a buy it program. The funny thing about atonement “theories” is that we aren’t actually told in the Bible exactly what Jesus accomplishes through the cross. That is why they are called theories. But let’s not devalue the life of Christ as we theorize. Jesus accomplishes so much through the death, resurrection, and ascension, we don’t need to cheapen it or make it into something it didn’t biblically portray.

Why did Jesus have to die on a cross? That is the grand question. The Bible actually doesn’t precisely answer this question. Perhaps that is some of the mystery of the gospel. A common view in Western Evangelicalism of what happened on the cross is this: humans have sinned and God must punish sinners by venting his wrath, but thankfully, because he loves us, Jesus went to the cross and was murdered in our place to pay our debt, so that God can forgive our sins and we can go to heaven when we die. This idea of how the cross works is called the “Penal Substitution Theory” of the atonement.8 The Penal Substitution Theory has not been the most common view throughout all of church history, nor is it the most common view of the worldwide church today. So while Penal Substitution Theory may be the majority view in modern, Western theology, the Church must wake up and realize that such a view is partially modeled after paganism, often mischaracterizes God, ultimately does not take sin seriously, and leaves out what actually happened on the cross.

The Penal Substitution Theory and purchase, debt language basically depicts God as a debt collector who must collect before he can forgive. Despite the fact that Scripture tells us that love keeps no record of wrongs (1 Corinthians 13:5), this theory states that Jesus must pay our debt to the Father (or in some cases Satan). The idea that God is merciful and forgiving, while also defining justice as demanding payment of debt don’t work together, they are at odds philosophically and ontologically. If there is a debt that is paid, then the debt is never forgiven at all. Sin is not forgiven on the cross in the Penal Substitution Theory; it is just paid off. We would never then be able to be washed truly clean. But what becomes even more problematic in thinking this way is that the only way in which God could be seen as merciful in paying the debt for mankind’s sin by killing Jesus. Let’s be clear God didn’t kill Jesus; he allowed Jesus to be killed and in a “Narnian like story” was a “way maker” to regain the keys of death. This is best framed through a Christus Victor form of atonement, but I also wouldn’t limit the work of the cross to a single view. Scot McKnight has a great book, A Community Called Atonement that is worth reading.9

Christ’s justice is restorative, not retributive. God doesn’t need anyone to pay off debt in order to forgive. God can just simply forgive. That’s what forgiveness is! Forgiveness is not receiving payment for a debt; forgiveness is the gracious cancellation of debt. There is no payment in forgiveness. That is what makes forgiveness mean anything. I have said it many times, but if you are a Calvinist, you can’t truly believe in biblical forgiveness; in the same way a Calvinist struggles to believe in any kind supplication kind of prayer as they don’t believe God works that way. I get that the reformed camp has their own way of explaining how this works, but it seems like a good deal of theological gymnastics.

Along with these misnomers you also may hear people say that Jesus died as our substitute or in our place. That isn’t the intention of this article but let me touch on it briefly since it is closely ties into our conversation. Often PSA advocates might say something like, Jesus was being punished by God for our sins and that what Jesus suffered in torture and crucifixion which is then essentially what every person deserves. That doesn’t really make any sense. Do you deserve to be tortured forever? This makes grace transactional again… accept it or be tortured forever? (Another strong claim for annihilation vs ECT but again, another discussion.) How is it true that every person deserves to be tortured to death? This sounds monstrous to me, not fitting the Exodus 34 self-description of God. Furthermore, if Jesus truly would have died in our place and gotten what we deserved according to PSA shouldn’t he then go to hell eternally according to their own reformed theology? The theory doesn’t hold up. Jesus died on a cross outside Jerusalem at the hand of the Romans (Matthew 27; Mark 15; Luke 23; John 19). None of us faced that death. He did not take our place on a cross, we didn’t deserve that and some would argue that he didn’t either, although Jesus was certainly “guilty” of not being allegiant to Roman authority.

If you have made it this far you likely know or have some knowledge of the foreshadowing of the sacrificial system to also be a picture of some of the thigs Jesus would become and accomplish. If you need to brush up, read the second part of this article first. 10 Two goats are selected for Israel: The sin offering goat and the goat that will “bear the sin”. Lots are cast to see which goat fulfills which role. Jesus actually embodies both at times. The second goat the scapegoat, or the azazel would carry away the sin of the camp into the wilderness. To be clear it is a picture, or a mosaic. Jesus will accomplish what the goat never could. The goat is a picture of simply transferring sin out of the camp, Jesus actually removes it completely. In theology this is called Expiation which means that the barrier lies outside of God, within humankind and/or a stain they leave on the world (sacred space), it is often interpreted as an action aimed at removing sin. To cover, wipe, or to purge sin. Where I believe some theology gets off is when you interpret this story as a propitiation view (punishment). The goat bears the sin and wrath. I don’t think this a great interpretation, but I have gotten significantly into that in videos and other articles. I don’t want to get too far into this here, but propitiation doesn’t really fit (work) for a number of reasons. Fopr instance if the goat was bearing the sin (carrying) it could not be a sacrifice because God only gets spotless pure animals (what does that do for your New Testament theology of the cross if Jesus was imputed our sin?) In Leviticus 16, the Hebraic sacrificial system, we have the first goat as the purification offering which is given to cleanse the temple objects. Blood is not applied to anyone. The scapegoat is sent to Azazel. So, sin, the forces of death, are removed from the camp. This connects God is rescuing his people from the forces of death. (Again it is an Exodus motif of freedom.) Neither of these goats are punished. It’s about expelling or purging God’s space (so Expiation!) The first goat (the one that dies) is more about cleaning the throne room of the stain of sin. The scapegoat doesn’t get killed. This is all about resetting sacred space (getting back to Eden).

To be frank, all of this comes off as weird to us. But God often meets people where they are at within their unique cultural dynamic. All Ancient Near Eastern cultures (including ones that existed before the Hebrews) killed animals, and sometimes humans, to appease the gods. Animal sacrifice is undebatably pagan. Yes, the God of the Bible used this pagan ritual to teach his people something new but it was always just a step in the process to get them away from it. It is really important to note that God never needed sacrifices in order to forgive. Why is this important? The Penal Substitution Theory ignores all this and says that God the Father still demands blood in order to take away sins.11

Leviticus 16 and the story of the scapegoat has some substitutionary aspects. I certainly do not deny that there are pictures of Jesus as our substitute. There is a difference between PSA and simple metaphor of substitution. Whenever you are understanding of substitution wanders into the camp of God’s wrath needing to be satisfied buy killing something I have a problem with that. The sacrificial system needs to be interpreted in light of restorative relationship being reconciled and the theme of redemption. I think when you start trying to understand this as imputation and especially double imputation, you’re getting off track and outside the picture that God has given us for what Jesus accomplishes through the cross, resurrection, and ascension. Again, if we take on this sort of reformed kind of thinking we are having to do some theological gymnastics to make it all work that seem unnatural to the message and mission of Jesus.

Payment language should paint a picture about the costliness of Jesus’ life and not about who receives the payment. So Jesus could “pay it all” by living in total surrender even unto death. We regularly use this analogy of “paid” as total dedication with soldiers who “paid the price for our freedom” in giving up their life in battle. In the same way, they literally did not “pay off” anyone or take anyone’s place. Instead, they died for a benefit to others and gave all they had. That is the way scripture also poses it the few times we see this sort of language used as I displayed in the opening paragraphs, but for some reason when it comes to the cross, PSA and reformed theology (which sometimes then becomes non reformed people using the same language) resorts to Jesus paying off God.

Since a lot of us like digging deeper, it could also help to point out how this “paid” language can sound like old pagan religion, where people had to pay off the gods with sacrifices. The gospel is the opposite of that. God comes to us first and makes things right. It makes sense to name PSA as the view most tied to “paid it all” language and explain why it does not match the whole story of Scripture. If we use the wider range of Bible images instead of locking into just one, we can talk about the cross in a way that shows God’s love and His plan to restore all things. Ending with a simple example of how this shift in language could change the way we pray, teach, or share the gospel would make it hit home even more for me.

I know you have heard these terms your whole life and might believe them to be the gospel, but that isn’t Biblical. Did Jesus pay for what we have in Him? You don’t need to say that any of this was “bought” or “paid for.” Perhaps you can say that as Paul does sometimes (arguably) as I started out this conversation. The intention of scripture using bought/paid/substitution language should be seen as a light metaphor not doctrine. All of scripture points towards the work of the cross as redemptive not transactional. Grace is free. Do you believe that? The exodus motif is Biblical, but the price attached to it isn’t. Yes, there was a process and sometimes we call this a “cost” as I Cor, 6 may frame it (although if you read it in Greek, you will read it differently that the ESV translates.) The cross Jesus Christ conquered all the powers of evil and ushered in the reign of God and the rule of the kingdom of heaven.12 What Christ offers is a return to Eden and then some. Freedom in him is restored. He sends his Spirit at Pentecost and now we are restored to our vocation as image bearers and are now his living temples showering the physical manifestation of Jesus’ sacrificial love. It is transactional, it isn’t retributive… it is free and restorative to all who want to return to their identity and partnership in Jesus. You were made for this!

  1. https://www.gotquestions.org/bought-with-a-price.html ↩︎
  2. Collins, Robin (1995), Understanding Atonement: A New and Orthodox Theory, Grantham: Messiah College ↩︎
  3. https://biblehub.com/topical/r/ransom_and_redemption.htm ↩︎
  4. https://etymologyworld.com/item/ransom ↩︎
  5. Scot McKnight: What is unobserved by the substitutionary theory advocates is that the ransom cannot be a substitute, as we might find in theologically sophisticated language: where death is for death, and penal judgment is for penal judgment. Here we have a mixing of descriptions: a ransom for slaves. Jesus, in Mark’s language, does not become a slave for other slaves. He is a ransom for those who are enslaved. The difference ought to be given careful attention. To be a substitute the ransom price would have to take the place of another ransom price or a slave for another slave, but that is not what is involved here…The ransom does not become a substitute so much as the liberating price.… The ransom, in this case, is not that Jesus “substitutes for his followers as a ransom” but that he ransoms by being the price paid in order to rescue his followers from that hostile power. The notion is one of being Savior, not substitution. The best translation would be that Jesus is a “ransom for the benefit of many.”
     
    Leon Morris: In the New Testament there is never any hint of a recipient of the ransom. In other words, we must understand redemption as a useful metaphor which enables us to see some aspects of Christ’s great saving work with clarity but which is not an exact description of the whole process of salvation. We must not press it beyond what the New Testament tells us about it. To look for a recipient of the ransom is illegitimate.” Morris, The Atonement, 129 ↩︎
  6. https://www.amazon.com/This-Way-Redefining-Biblical-Covenant/dp/1633572390 ↩︎
  7. https://biblicalelearning.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Walton_Job_Session18.pdf ↩︎
  8. https://www.rivalnations.org/god-didnt-kill-jesus/. ↩︎
  9. https://www.bookey.app/book/a-community-called-atonement ↩︎
  10. https://expedition44.com/2024/12/30/the-new-year-jewish-roots/ ↩︎
  11. The theory pits the Father against the Son even though in nature they should be, and are, eternally the same (Matthew 11:27; John 1:18; 4:34; 5:19-20; 6:38, 46; 8:28; 10:29; 12:49; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 13:8). The Penal Substitution Theory fractures the Trinity and makes God schizophrenic. We are commanded to forgive like God forgives (Ephesians 4:32). But if we choose to forgive like Jesus then forgiveness will precede repentance (Matthew 9:2; 18:22; Luke 23:34; John 8:11; 20:19-23). However, if we choose to forgive like the father (according to PST), we will only forgive those that show repentance, or after they make a payment of some kind. This clearly creates an unnecessary problem. How and why would God need a blood sacrifice before he could love what he had created? Is God that needy, unfree, unloving, rule-bound, and unable to forgive? Once you say it, you see it creates a nonsensical theological notion that is very hard to defend. Thankfully we see this isn’t God’s character. Jesus shows us what God is like, and Jesus says that our perfect heavenly Father displays perfection as pure mercy (Matthew 5:48, Luke 6:36). ↩︎
  12. https://www.amazon.com/Wood-Between-Worlds-Poetic-Theology/dp/151400562X ↩︎

Audrey I. Lansdowne

A kingdom obituary -April 30, 1925 ~ July 28, 2025

This morning, we will put my grandmother, Audrey in the ground to lie next to her husband Horace who passed on 4 Feb 2000 at the age of 79. She lived to be 100 years old, a full century. Have you ever considered what that means? Audrey’s life was a full century testimony to faith in Jesus Christ, her quiet strength, and endearing heartfelt service to her LORD. Audrey’s life very much embodied that kind of kingdom dedication.

At the end of her high school career during World War II, she stepped up to support her country as a factory worker, aiding the war effort. Even as a young woman, Audrey showed the kind of courage, patriotism, and virtue that would define her entire life. On May 1, 1946, Audrey was united in marriage to my grandfather, Ellington Horace Lansdowne of Madison, WI — a man who had served as a Former Flight Instructor (FFI) in the US Army Air Corps and later, a private flight instructor and firefighter for the City of Madison. 

People don’t really come in this kind of form anymore. It has been described as a lost generation.1 She lived out the great depression eating ketchup sandwiches. Her father passed early in life, so she supported her family working in high school and graduating before her older sisters and likely built bombs in the war effort at the age of 17 because she believed in a country that gave her the freedom of faith to worship her God. Horace showed up in an airplane and said go buy a dress we are getting married tomorrow… and they did and then flew away to start a family… probably on the plane ride home in auto pilot (which would have been a rope tied to the Taylorcraft yoke!)

She and Horace went on to be part of the founding members of Westwood Christian Church where Horace was an elder for many years and Audrey wore many hats. It was at this children’s church that I met my good lifelong friend Keith N. Schoville who started teaching me Hebrew incantations at an early age. He earned a Ph.D from UW Madison and later became the chairman of the of Hebrew and Semitic studies department. Keith helped me get into Bible college at Moody Bible Institute and later was instrumental in getting me into the Ph.D program at UW Madison in the Semitic studies department. I have a lot of great memories of attending church every time we visited grandma and grandpa. Going to church while visiting them was never an option, people don’t really do that anymore and it is unfortunate in many ways. I am thankful for what that sort of endearment ended up crafting in my life.

My grandfather was an adventurer. He literally swept Audrey off her feet and created a great life. She raised babies according to the ways of the LORD, and he did what he could to provide moving them into a sizeable home, working as a Madison firefighter which would later provide a pension that would take care of Audrey (and in some sense my mother) for many years after he was no longer around. Horace (better known as EHL) was a great enthusiast of many things to include aviation, Ford Mustangs, VW Beetles, giant Cadillacs, a 63 corvette (if I remember right), and a pretty good firearms collection that was hidden in every nook and cranny of that old house. I was quite impacted by my younger years with Horace and Audrey. I believe if that old house is ever torn down the walls and floorboards will share some stories. I will always remember driving around the countryside with my father and grandfather from one gun store to another shopping for the rare addition to the collections. I remember the infatuation I had with an old luger that grandpa had and yesterday we (my boys and Rob ad his boys) went shooting with some old WWII classics and I was taken back to remember some of those days with EHL.

My Grandfather is also responsible for my shopping and trading addiction. At a young age he sat me down in next to him at his “aviation” desk, handed me a red marker and a trade-a-plane and said find the best one! For many years that became a great pastime, and I am pretty sure he actually went out and bought one of those planes I circled at one point! As a flight instructor, by the time I was 12 he had me in ground school on a Texas Instrument TI-99 4a (pretty sure the numbers are right but going from total memory) computer flight simulator. This later gave way to me being a near computer wiz before anyone else I knew had even seen a computer. A mere 10 years later (still in the DOS days and even before blackberries) I figured out how to get email into a very early version of what we now call smart phones. I remember EHL not being able to wrap his mind around the concept of the internet and email. EHL would go on to have a stroke that he should have died from but was never really the same after that and passed in 2000, the year before Krista and I married. Audrey spent many years caring for him in that state. Her strength once again showed tenacity.

Audrey was resilient. She moved in with my parents and my father built a new home in the woods of Wausau with a mother-in-law quarter in the basement that was all hers. She loved that place and so did my mother. After my father passed in 2006 at 58 years old that house had special meaning to both of them. But my mother and grandmother were strong and within a few years moved to Walworth in a near new home where they could be close to our family and specifically my boys. This was a missional move.

My children grew up playing songs for Mamaw and great grammy a couple times a week. They attended regular soccer games and were always there to root on the boys in whatever capacity that meant. Grandma always had a special smile for them that no one else ever seemed to get from her! It became one of our greatest joys in life watching the sweet interactions between them. By the time our Oldest, Ty got his license, I would regularly ask where he was to find out he was at Mamaw and Great Grammys just hanging out! I will always remember and cherish the hearts of my boys towards these widows.

One of the things I liked most about Audrey was that she wasn’t overly salvific, and to be clear I don’t say this as being a bad thing; but her entire life she was more committed to deeper discipleship than evangelism and I truly believe that was the heart of Jesus in the great commission. She desired more than just a saving knowledge of Christ, she desired for people to really experience who Jesus was; to know what it meant to leave everything on the beach and give Jesus your complete life. She lived out that message perhaps better than EHL did. It has been said that behind every great man is a greater woman of faith.

That life resiliency that I had come to love and respect so much never left Audrey. Even into her nineties her mind was sharp, and it showed in her love and fervor for things of the LORD. She was a picture of what has become ancient devotion. She watched gospel TV nearly all day long and quite literally had the Bible memorized even in her old age. Even in the last couple of years of her life when her mind and memory showed signs of age she insisted on watching her favorite church services and impressing on my boys the need and desire of her heart for them to walk with the LORD.

Although I may not have agreed with all of her John MacArthur like theology, her fervency of faith was impressive, and I welcomed it into our family. I have a near photographic memory of scripture. I remember verses that people have used that they have long forgotten. It is a gift that is deeply woven into my DNA likely from inception.

One of the last scriptures she recited to me that I remember clearly was Psalm 102:12 –But You, Lord, remain forever, and Your name remains to all generations. (Ok you invited a theologian to address the internment!)

In Hebrew, this is יְהֹוָה לְעוֹלָם, you might recognize it even if you don’t know much Hebrew. David uses the personal name of God, יְהֹוָה , not the word “Lord.” I think at some point Audrey discovered this. It was a very personal verse, not a title but the very NAME of God, YHWH. But the psalmist goes on to say your “name” remains forever. You have probably heard that traditional Jews that don’t pronounce God’s name and often use the term Ha-Shem as a spoken substitute for YHVH which means “the name” in English… but here that isn’t the word that is used for “name.” Instead, the Hebrew word  zēker is used which I find strangely interesting. In Hebrew singular words often tell a plethora of things… this is a sort of remez, or retelling of many things in a simple word or statement, it was idiomatic. The word means, “think (about), meditate (upon), pay attention (to); remember, recollect; mention, declare, recite, proclaim, invoke, commemorate, accuse, confess.2

I imagine if I could go back to that moment with Audrey many years ago when she shared this verse with my young boys that she knew what this verse embodied because she lived it. This verse is God’s declaration. It is the vocational calling and identity that we have in Him and Audrey lived that out and made it known impressing on me at an early age to live this way and later doing the same for my boys.

It’s not the letters YHVH that remain forever.  It’s the remembrance of who He is.  Heschel used to say, “to believe is to remember.”3

One more thing, did you ever notice that “remains to all generations” is in italics? What do you think that means?  In Hebrew it reads:  תֵּשֵב וְזִכְרְךָ לְדֹר וָדֹר׃  (Te-Shev Ve-Zikh-Re-Kha Le-Dor Va-Dor). You will notice the literary rhythmic pattern, the connecting genre of the wisdom and poetic texts.

Te-Shev is the verb “abide” – “You, YHVH, abide [remain].”  But the verb yāšab is more controversial and therefore stumbles in translation, it sometimes is read as “dwell” but here I will challenge (and Robert Alter4 would agree) means “to be enthroned.”  “You, YHVH, are forever enthroned.” 

The NASB then translates “To all generations,” (the word “all” isn’t technically in the text.) 

So here is the thing, the “name” of God, that is, His remembrance, depends on the generations of men or should I even say women. Today this has largely become lost. Do you see the implication?

The verse implies that we need someone to do the praising, remembering, and worshipping—someone alive!  “If I die,” implies the psalmist, “Your glory will be diminished because I won’t be there to praise You.” The Psalmist sees their part in the covenant partnership and so did Audrey. She knew that she needed to live it out and insist on such a way of devotional living. You didn’t play cards in Grandmas house, and you better remember to pray before you eat. Are you following me? God’s faithfulness spans the generations for those that are devout.  for Audrey it was YHWH, “You are worthy of all praise.  Let me partner with that notion.” And that is what she prayed for her grandsons and for us. Today we honor her by doing just that.

I know that her children and grandchildren have taken on a wide range of faith and there is a great deal of diversity here. I ask today that we celebrate that. That we come together in honor of Audrey for what we are united in and find common. I believe that although Audrey would want to encourage you into her John MacArthur like religion and perhaps you already know that greater than I do, but she would also smile on any step that leaned towards Jesus. I invite you to come back to that place.

Would you join me one last time?

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see

‘Twas grace that taught my heart to fear
And grace my fears relieved;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed

When we’ve been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun
We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise
Than when we first begun

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see

  1. https://www.bu.edu/historic/_hs_pdfs/Bess_Forum_Mar_Ap_08.pdf ↩︎
  2. Harris, R. L., Archer, G. L., Jr., & Waltke, B. K. (Eds.). (1999). Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (electronic ed., p. 241). Chicago: Moody Press. ↩︎
  3. https://jewishreviewofbooks.com/articles/5560/in-and-out-of-time/ ↩︎
  4. https://www.amazon.com/Book-Psalms-Translation-Commentary/dp/0393337049 ↩︎

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The Journey… here and now

Whenever I read Ecclesiastes 3 I start humming “Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season)”, a song written by Pete Seeger in the late 1950s, which the Byrds scored a HUGE 1965 hit with.1 The lyrics, except for the title which is repeated throughout the song and the final two lines, are adapted word-for-word from the English King James Version of Ecclesiastes 3:1-8.2 In the U.S., the song holds distinction as the number one hit with the oldest lyrics.3 I sometimes Joke that Seeger got more people to memorize scripture than any pastor in history. However, you remember it, I am sure at some point you have contemplated the questions it raises.

Ecclesiastes 3 contains philosophical speeches by a character called ‘Qoheleth’ (“the Teacher”; Koheleth or Kohelet), composed probably between the fifth and second centuries BC. Peshitta, Targum, and Talmud attribute the authorship of the book to King Solomon.4

Although I am sure you have hummed the tune, too many people go through life without ever stopping to “really” ponder a very simple question, “what connection do you have to Jesus and His kingdom and what should that mean to you in this life?” That is the question the wise Kohelet brings to their audience and is as relevant 2500 years later, today – as it was the day it was penned.

Mircea Eliade was a Romanian philosopher, and professor at the University of Chicago who became one of the most influential scholars of religion of the 20th century and interpreter of religious experience, he established paradigms in religious studies that persist to this day.5 He helped us recognize the “myth of eternal return” in the ancient world. The idea that every culture has had some kind of circle of life (as Disney later adopted it). From the Aztecs 27,000 year cycle,6 to the Hebraic 50 years of Jubilee year, including every seven years a sabbatical year, most cultures have recognized some cycle of life.7 In our culture New Years is a day of rethinking the past and taking on a resolution to do better in the coming year. In some way shape or form, I think everyone has considered the notion.

As I reflect on different life cycles I am reminded that even though the Hebraic calendar includes yearly festivals, they are different than the other cycles of the world because they are not merely repetitions of the primordial event. In Hebrew thought, the world is actually going somewhere, and we are all a distinct part of that story. We are all part of a return to Eden. But the past is finished and luckily for many of us, a recreated heaven and earth will bring the perfect union of Jesus in partnership with our true identity in Him that we have only imagined in fairy tale like songs. But to many who have stopped and considered the mastery of the entire narrative to us we have arrived and become firmly fixed on the notion that the sentiment is worth our lives.

Jon Gibson has uncovered something beautifully for us. As we reflect, remember, resolve and contemplate things more significant in this life, I am betting that we have seen seasons and have hopefully travelled to a better place of life through these journeys. But perhaps the best is yet to come for you.

The word the Qohelet uses in Hebrew for time is zĕmān. In Hebrew the word doesn’t denote an indeterminate sequence but rather an appointed moment. 8 An appointed moment of birth—and death.  An appointed moment to laugh—and cry.  To kill—and heal.  To sow—and reap.  All appointed.9 Perhaps there is something more going on in this life. Maybe there is a sense of orchestration in the ordinary that has led us to beautiful places even in the messiness or busyness of our modern life cycles. Most of us wouldn’t choose the courses of our past but we also wouldn’t choose to remove them from our lives. That seems to be an ontological fact of existence that we have in common. We are on a sentient journey.

I pray that in the pages of this masterful piece that you will find peace, comfort, and a sense of direction in the fact that somehow God is working out His plan within the pages of your life journey.  Behind it all is His invisible hand. That’s comforting. Perhaps in the tears and fears, joy and grief, success and failure, helping and hurting; we will understand the immense love that Jon has so beautifully given us through his connections to Jesus. I pray that on this journey you may be captivated by these seasons and find a sense of peace but also action.

This article is intended to be a catalyst to Jon Gibson’s book “HERE AND NOW” to be released in 2026.

  1. “Turn! Turn! Turn! – Byrds Version”Allmusic. ↩︎
  2. “King Solomon’s Writings”. United Church of God: An International Association ↩︎
  3. Hasson, Nir (2009-11-08). “Pete Seeger’s role in ending Israeli house demolitions”. Haaretz. ↩︎
  4. Jastrow, Morris; Margoliouth, David Samuel (1901–1906). “Ecclesiastes, Book of”. In Singer, Isidore; et al. (eds.). The Jewish Encyclopedia. New York: Funk & Wagnalls. ↩︎
  5. Rennie, Bryan (January 2001). Changing Religious Worlds: The Meaning and End of Mircea Eliade. SUNY Press. ISBN 978-0-7914-4729-1. ↩︎
  6. Hill Boone, Elizabeth (2016). Ciclos de tiempo y significado en los libros mexicanos del destino [Cycles of time and meaning in the Mexican books of destiny]. Mexico City: Fondo de Cultura Económica. ISBN 9786071635020. ↩︎
  7. B. Zuckermann, A Treatise on the Sabbatical Cycle and the Jubilee, trans. A. Löwy. New York: Hermon Press, 1974. ↩︎
  8. Babylonian Talmud, Pesachim 94a ↩︎
  9. https://brianzahnd.com/2018/01/twenty-two-days/ ↩︎
  10.  “Robert Wiedeman Barrett (Pen) Browning (1849–1912)”. Armstrong Browning Library and Museum, Baylor University. ↩︎

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What is God’s Name?

I have this large print rendering on the wall of our home. Many ask about it and I am usually pretty quiet and generic in my response to people. There is something about the name of God that seems unutterable. I kind of feel like saying, “If you have to ask me, then you are not going to understand.”

The best name for referring to God is יהוה (YHWH). This is called “THE” Tetragrammaton and comes from the Greek tetra, meaning “four,” and gramma, which means “letters.” It refers to the four consonants Yod, He, Vav and He (written from right to left in the Hebrew), used to designate God’s name in the Old Testament’s original manuscripts. They represent the English letters (from left to right) of YHWH (or YHVH). The Tetragrammaton is commonly translated as Lord, God or Jehovah in modern Bibles. Most translations, such as the KJV, NIV, NASB, HBFV and others, capitalize these words (e.g. LORD) when the underlying Hebrew referencing God is (usually) the Tetragrammaton. YHWH (or YHVH) is the most common proper name of the one true God found in Scripture. The Tetragrammaton occurs 5,410 times in the Old Testament manuscripts according to the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia. The encyclopedia also states it is found the most in the Psalms (645) followed by the book of Jeremiah (555).1

The Bible actually only calls God by 7 different names, the rest of the “names” often attributed are actually descriptions of God, which I will admit, could also be construed as a “name” since God is in essence the definition of these attributes. Most of our research will land in the Old Testament, but I will finish with the New. Here is a better understanding to the names of God.

YHWH is called the Tetragrammaton which is the four-letter Hebrew-language theonym יהוה‎ (transliterated as YHWH or YHVH). This is the best and most used name for God in the scripture, some would argue that is really the only “real” name. Contrary to what some believe, Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel. The name Jehovah is a product of mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages. Due to a fear of accidentally taking God’s name in vain (Leviticus 24:16), the Jews basically quit saying it out loud altogether. Instead, when reading Scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the tetragrammaton YHWH with the word Adonai (“Lord”). Even in the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament), the translators substituted Kurios (“Lord”) for the Divine Name. Eventually, the vowels from Adonai (“Lord”) or Elohim (“God”) found their way in between the consonants of YHWH, thus forming YaHWeH. But this interpolation of vowels does not mean that was how God’s name was originally pronounced. In fact, we aren’t entirely sure if YHWH should have two syllables or three.2

The four Hebrew letters, written and read from right to left, are yodhevav, and he. The name is derived from a verb that means ‘to be’, ‘to exist’, ‘to cause to become’, or ‘to come to pass’.3 This is based off of many scriptures such as when Moses asks for God’s name at the burning bush, God answers ‘I AM WHO I AM.’ He then tells Moses that when the Israelites ask the name of the God of their ancestors, Moses should tell them ‘I AM’ has sent you (Exodus 3:14). In Hebrew the word is Ehyeh, the Hebrew word Yahweh is a derivative of Ehyeh and means “he will be.” The name Yahweh is used over six thousand times in the Old Testament and is so closely identified with the essence of God’s nature that, out of reverence, many orthodox Jewish people refuse to say the name out loud. Instead, they say HaShem—which means “the name,” or Adonai, which means “Lord.” Modern translations of the Bible print LORD, in all capital letters, to denote the use of the Hebrew word YHWH throughout scripture.4 Owing to the expansion of chumra, the idea of ‘building a fence around the Torah’, the word Adonai itself has come to be too holy to say for Orthodox Jews outside of prayer, leading to its replacement by HaShem (‘The Name’). In modernity, Christianity is the only Abrahamic religion in which the Tetragrammaton is freely and openly pronounced. As other traditions might view this openness as irreverent, Christians believe that God has offered a personal relationship to which bearing His image and claiming His name has been offered to them. The books of the Torah and the rest of the Hebrew Bible except Esther, Ecclesiastes, and (with a possible instance of יה‎ (Jah) in verse 8:6) the Song of Songs contain this Hebrew name.5

The Jewish sages would say that there are 7 names of God that, once written, cannot be erased because of their holiness6 are the Tetragrammaton (YHWH), Adonai, El, Elohim, Shaddai, Tzevaot; some also include I Am that I Am, from which “YHWH” is believed to be derived.7 As mentioned previously, all other names, such as “Merciful”, “Gracious” and “Faithful”, merely represent attributes that are also common to human beings.8

  •  יהוה (YHWH) – The Tetragrammaton appears in Genesis and occurs 6,828 times in total in the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia edition of the Masoretic Text. It is thought to be an archaic third-person singular of the imperfective aspect of the verb “to be” (i.e., “[He] is/was/will be”). This agrees with the passage in Exodus where God names himself as “I Will Be What I Will Be” using the first-person singular imperfective aspect, open to interpretation as present tense (“I am what I am”), future (“I shall be what I shall be”), or imperfect (“I used to be what I used to be”).9
  • אֲדֹנָי (Adonai transl. my Lord[s]) -As with Elohim, Adonai’s grammatical form is usually explained as a form akin to the “royal we”. In the Hebrew Bible, the word is nearly always used to refer to God (approximately 450 occurrences). The Deuteronomy 32 Worldview is largely based around a plural understanding of El and Adonai.
  • אֵל (El transl. God) – El appears in Ugaritic, Phoenician and other late Bronze and Iron Age Levant texts both as generic “god” and as the head of the divine pantheon.10 In the Hebrew Bible, El (אל, ʾel) appears very occasionally alone (e.g. Genesis 33:20, el elohei yisrael, ‘Mighty God of Israel’, and Genesis 46:3, ha’el elohei abika, ‘El the God of thy father’), but usually with some epithet or attribute attached (e.g. El Elyon, ‘Most High El’, El Shaddai, El Shaddai, El ʿOlām ‘Everlasting El’, El Hai, ‘Living El’, El Ro’i ‘El my Shepherd’, and El Gibbor ‘El of Strength’). In can also be seen in theophoric names such as Gabriel (“Strength of God”), Michael (“Who is like God?”), Raphael (“God healed”), Ariel (“My lion is God”), Daniel (“My judgment is God”), Ezekiel (“God shall strengthen”), Israel (“one who has struggled with God”), Immanuel (“God is with us”), and Ishmael (“God hears/ will hear / listens/ will listen”).
  • אֱלֹהִים (Elohim transl. Gods/Godhead) – A common name of God in the Hebrew Bible is Elohim (אלהים, ʾĕlōhīm), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ (Eloha). When Elohim refers to God in the Hebrew Bible, singular verbs are used. The word is identical to elohim meaning gods and is cognate to the ‘lhm found in Ugaritic, where it is used for the pantheon of Canaanite gods, the children of El and conventionally vocalized as “Elohim” although the original Ugaritic vowels are unknown. When the Hebrew Bible uses elohim not in reference to God, it is plural (for example, Exodus 20:2). There are a few other such uses in Hebrew, for example Behemoth. In Modern Hebrew, the singular word ba’alim (‘owner’) looks plural, but likewise takes a singular verb. Therefore scholars would consider “elohim” as the most generic term for God and can mean other gods. There is a view to which Elohim is translated as the plural construct ‘powers’; Hebrew grammar allows for this form to mean “He is the Power (singular) over powers (plural)”, such as LORD MOST HIGH.
  • שַׁדַּי (Shaddai transl. Almighty) –  El Shaddai is conventionally translated as “God Almighty”. While the translation of El as ‘god’ in Ugaritic/Canaanite languages is straightforward, the literal meaning of Shaddai is the subject of debate.
  • צְבָאוֹת (Tzevaoth transl. [Lord of] Hosts) – Tzevaot, Tzevaoth, Tsebaoth or Sabaoth (צבאות, ṣəḇāʾōṯ, lit. “Armies”), usually translated “Hosts”, appears in reference to armies or armed hosts of men but is not used as a divine epithet in the Torah, Joshua, or Judges. Starting in the Books of Samuel, the term “Lord of Hosts” appears hundreds of times throughout the Prophetic books, in Psalms, and in Chronicles. Tertullian and other Fathers of the Church used it with the meaning of “Army of angels of God”.11
  • I Am that I Am – already explained above

Early authorities considered other Hebrew names mere epithets or descriptions of God, many Orthodox Jews have adopted the chumras of writing “G-d” instead of “God”.

You also might be surprised to learn that Baal meant ‘owner’ and, by extension, ‘lord’, ‘master’, and ‘husband’ in Hebrew and the other Northwest Semitic languages.12 In some early contexts and theophoric names, it and Baali (“My Lord”) were treated as synonyms of Adon and Adonai.13

There are other “names” used for God, but all of them are a bit more arguable. Elim and Elah are often Hebrew/Aramaic words for God. Elah is used to describe both pagan gods and the Abrahamic God and therefore is often considered the Aramic version of the Hebrew Elohim. El Roi is a “name” found in Genesis, when Hagar uses this name for the God who spoke to her through His Angel. In Hebrew, her phrase El Roi, is literally, ‘God of Seeing Me’. But as I have made the point previously, it really isn’t another proper name for God but a description of God that might perhaps be entitled as a name. In the ancient world an original name was given (sometimes later than the original name) according to what you were known for. That is also true when considering the name changes given by God to others in the Bible. Therefore, there is an argument for the many other “names” of God being defined as original attributes… such as God isn’t just described as being Holy, He actually is Holy; He has defined the attribute.

In a Deuteronomy 32 worldview (Divine Council) there is another name worth mentioning. The name Elyon (עליון) occurs in combination with ElYHWHElohim and alone. It appears chiefly in poetic and later Biblical passages. The modern Hebrew adjective ‘Elyon means ‘supreme’ (as in “Supreme Court”: Hebrew: בית המשפט העליון) or ‘Most High’. El Elyon has been traditionally translated into English as ‘God Most High’. 14 But again, the name is really just “El” attached to an adjective, but does the original adjective then become Him?

Shekhinah (שכינה) is the presence or manifestation of God which has descended to “dwell” among humanity. The term never appears in the Hebrew Bible; later rabbis used the word when speaking of God dwelling either in the Tabernacle or amongst the people of Israel. The root of the word means “dwelling”. Of the principal names of God, it is the only one that is of the feminine gender in Hebrew grammar. The term, however, may not be a name, as it may merely describe the presence of God, and not God Himself.15 I mention this because some wonder about the femininity of God. You might consider reading this post if you are interested in those that hold views this way. However, to get back to the name shekinah, in the New Testament after Jesus ascends to the throne and sends His spirit to indwell every believe we are now the manifestation physically of that Spirit. God in us. The phrase “God with us” is often associated with the Hebrew name “Immanuel” (sometimes spelled “Emmanuel”), which directly translates to “God with us.” This phrase appears prophetically in the Old Testament and is quoted in the New Testament to reveal a profound truth about the identity of Jesus. It proclaims that the Messiah is not merely a human representative but the very presence of God dwelling among humanity.16 In similar ontological idea, at Pentecost God now dwells in His people.

While the Old Testament has a wide variety of names and epithets that refer to God in Hebrew, the Greek text of the New Testament uses far fewer variants.17 In the New Testament God’s names are written as Theos (θεός the Greek term for God), Kyrios (i.e. Lord in Greek) and Patēr (πατήρ i.e. Father in Greek). The Aramaic word “Abba” (אבא), meaning “Father” is used by Jesus in Mark 14:36 and also appears in Romans 8:15 and Galatians 4:6. Paul refers to “the Father of mercies” in his Second Letter to the Corinthians,[and James refers to “the Father of lights” in his epistle.

The names of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are inherently related in the New Testament, e.g. with Jesus’ instruction to His disciples at the end of the Gospel of Matthew (28:19): “make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”.

The Greek word pneuma, generally translated spirit, is found around 385 times in the New Testament.  The “Spirit of Truth” is used in John 14:17, 15:26 and 16:13. The First Epistle of John then contrasts this with the “spirit of error” in 1 John 4:6. Although most of the evangelical word believes in the Trinity to be “God Himself”, much of the orthodox world does not view “GOD” this way. They would view God and Jesus and the ability for either of them to “send” their spirit, but not necessarily as a separate entity or person. There is a consistent argument for both the New and Old Testaments to interpret the spirit in this sense. Some would then call it a matter of semantics, but to be clear this does divide those that call themselves trinitarians and those that don’t. Here is a Biblically conservative post that dives into this conversation.

Although in some modern culture’s names are simply labels and designators that distinguish one item from another, in Christian theology the names of God have always had much deeper meaning and significance.18 In the religious sense, the names of God are not human inventions, but have divine origin and are based on divine revelation. Berkhof states that the issue surrounding the use and interpretation of the names of God provide a theological puzzle in that given that God is “infinite and incomprehensible”, His names transcend human thought, yet they allow Him to be revealed to humans as he descends to what is finite and comprehensible. 19 The name(s) of God have always been revered in the Christian tradition and has been associated with His presence. We often say, there is power in the name and we truly believe that. All the power and all the authority that Jesus had is invested in His Name and given through His Spirit to manifest in them. Jesus said we could use His Name in prayer. He said we could use His Name in dealing with demons. He said we could use His Name in ministering healing. 

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  1. https://www.biblestudy.org/beginner/definition-of-christian-terms/tetragrammaton.html ↩︎
  2. https://www.gotquestions.org/YHWH-tetragrammaton.html ↩︎
  3. Kitz, Anne Marie (2019). “The Verb *yahway”Journal of Biblical Literature138 (1): 39–62. ↩︎
  4. https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/what-meaning-gods-name-i-am.html ↩︎
  5. Geoffrey William BromileyErwin FahlbuschJan Milic LochmanJohn MbitiJaroslav PelikanLukas Vischer, eds. (2008). “Yahweh”The Encyclopedia of Christianity. Vol. 5. Translated by Geoffrey William Bromiley. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing ; Brill. pp. 823–824. ISBN 978-90-04-14596-2↩︎
  6. “If an error is made in writing it, it may not be erased, but a line must be drawn round it to show that it is canceled…” Archived 2011-11-14 at the Wayback Machine, “Names of God”, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia ↩︎
  7. Online Etymology Dictionary. . ↩︎
  8. “Names Of God”. JewishEncyclopedia.com. ↩︎
  9.  “Biblical Hebrew Grammar for Beginners” Archived 2015-03-19 at the Wayback MachineUniversity of Texas at Austin ↩︎
  10. Toorn, Karel van der; Becking, Bob (1999), K. van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter Willem van der Horst, Dictionary of deities and demons in the Bible, pp. 274-277, Wm. B. Eerdmans, ISBN 978-0-8028-2491-2 ↩︎
  11. Georges, O. Badellini, F. Calonghi, Dizionario latino–italiano [Latin-to-Italian Dictionary], Rosenberg & Sellier, Turin, 17th edition, 1989, page 2431 of 2959 ↩︎
  12. Pope, Marvin H. (2006), “Baal Worship”Encyclopaedia Judaica, 2nd ed., vol. III, New York: Thomas Gale, ISBN 978-0-02-865928-2 ↩︎
  13. Britannica Encyclopedia of World Religions, New York: Encyclopædia Britannica, 2006, ISBN 978-1-59339-491-2 ↩︎
  14. https://drmsh.com/TheNakedBible/HeiserReplyToStarkMostHeiser.pdf ↩︎
  15. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-divine-feminine-in-kabbalah-an-example-of-jewish-renewal/ ↩︎
  16. https://biblehub.com/q/what_does_’god_with_us’_mean_for_jesus.htm ↩︎
  17. All the Divine Names and Titles in the Bible by Herbert Lockyer (Sep 29, 1988) ISBN 0310280419 page 93 ↩︎
  18. Mercer dictionary of the Bible by Watson E. Mills, Roger Aubrey Bullard 1998 ISBN 0-86554-373-9 page 336 ↩︎
  19. Systematic Theology by Louis Berkhof (Sep 24, 1996) ISBN 0802838200 pages47-51 (yes, I am actually referencing a systematic theology book OUCH! ↩︎
  20. https://www.hopefaithprayer.com/salvationnew/what-we-are-in-christ-kenyon/ ↩︎

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Matt 7:13-27 “THE WAY”

He wondered have you ever wondered what Matthew 7 is really about?

gates – ways – foundations – false prophets of the world – entanglement – alignment

As you dive in deeper there are some concerning words that are sure to raise an eyebrow. But what Jesus is saying is that “false prophets” are those who propagate the ways and the systems of the world and bring them into the church and entangle God’s people. Those who Jesus never knew are those who are entangled and aren’t walking the better way, but walking the entangled way. Jesus makes a point of showing that there are those who know Jesus but then those that claim to know him but don’t follow him.

  • 7:13-14
  • 7:15-20
  • 7:21-23
  • 7:24-27

When we look at the genre of the literary style we see that it’s a chiasm the beginning and the end are the same and the two in the middle are the same it’s broken up in this way:

Matt 7:13 Narrow Gate – The place where the blind have no idea what lies ahead.  The narrow path (gate) is the Hebrew word mish’ol, the word is found in the Torah only once, in the story of Balaam’s donkey in Numbers 22.  The Angel of the Lord (a title used in the Old Testament often considered as the pre-incarnation theophany of the Messiah) once stood in the narrow space.  The Narrow Gate is synonymous with those that can’t see the way of Jesus. The result was violence. Balaam almost beating his donkey to death to get what he wants (materialism using the name of the LORD). The way of Jesus is peaceful and subversive, not violent and angry.

Today we don’t really like the idea of “narrow gates”; the implication is that some of us are blind to the “truth.” In this regard, Christianity as a religion (not at the level of each individual) has often become “supernatural commercialism” (Heschel’s brilliant phrase1) tied to what sells. It is a picture of the worldly entanglement of the church. It is self-interest par excellence because it promotes as religion exactly those objectives that make us feel good. Often is the name of Jesus we end up doing things that are opposite of His Ways. We create paradigms of “Christianity” that are far more aligned with the ways of the world than the ways of Jesus, but we want to rubber stamp a Jesus label on it. Jesus calls this spiritual blindness. When we choose to be in debt to a slave like work week, extravagant homes, and are financed to the hilt with credit cards, cars, boats, and materialism we show the motives of our heart. Jesus doesn’t call us to live this way. Jesus lived simply and calls us to walk in His image. He didn’t appear to own a home, a donkey (car), or be overly concerned with any other material things. He didn’t even seem to want any money. Judas carried the money, that should actually speak volumes. When it came time to pay a tax his father provided from a fish.

Fruits – The Bible is clear that we shouldn’t be judgmental but rather test by fruitfulness. Love, joy, peace, long-suffering; all that good stuff we recognize as the hallmarks of a follower. The commission is to be set a part from the ways of the world.

Our works

I believe bates was strongly influenced by Heschel. “It is clear here that the salvific pistis [faith] action is closely aligned with obedience so that it cannot be separated from it. . . . the gospel is purposed toward bringing about the practical obedience characteristic of allegiance to a king. . .”2

Bates shows that the rhetoric of Paul’s letters and the gospels must be understood within the socio-political environment of the first century, and in that environment allegiance to a king was in some ways deemed contrary to the Way of Jesus. Jesus has expectations of allegiance and obedience. The King expects results being aligned to His kingdom not the kingdoms of the world.

Watchman Nee once said that human beings have the propensity to create sustainable good works without the anointing and on-going involvement of the Spirit.3  Good things do not necessarily please God.  TOV (good) was just the start, God was looking for a partnership in covenant obedience. Be obedient to the little things and the master will entrust you with the greater things of the kingdom. Bathe your life in Spirit-saturated works. Your time, treasure, talent, and testimony point to the “ways” of your heart. Then God’s joyful celebration in His completed desire will be yours too. -The Heart of Psalm 37:4.

Many will say to me in that day, “Lord, Lord, didn’t we . . “  Matthew 7:22 Jesus is not talking about intentions.  He’s talking about real actions.  These people stand before Him and points to precisely the things that we would count as worthy of the kingdom and entangle you to the world.

never knew you – “The truth of being human is gratitude, the secret of existence is appreciation, its significance is revealed in reciprocity.”4 Anomia in Greek is lawlessness.  In Hebraic thought this is whatever is contrary to Torah.  Torah is nomos.  Whatever is not Torah is anomos. The Torah pointed people to the coming JESUS. Know Torah, know Jesus. Does anyone know what the Torah was about? Devotion.

Heschel reminds us: “Only those who live spiritually on edge will be able to go beyond the shore without longing for the certainties established on the artificial rock of our speculation.”5 “Longing for the certainties.”  That is the hardest part of following Jesus is a modern world. The materialisms are too great. We want assurances, comfort, we don’t like reliance or faith, we want to know that we all can make our own way. We don’t need faith, an Acts 2 community or quite frankly Jesus. We have become our own gods.

It is my opinion faith is the opposite of certainty and that makes faith hard. All of your relationships are built on trust.  None are certain.  Jesus is certain, but asks us to have faith and be part of this community.

This article was written by Dr. Will Ryan and Dr. Matt Mouzakis

  1. Abraham Heschel, A Passion for Truth, p. 159. ↩︎
  2. Matthew Bates, Salvation by Allegiance Alone, p. 96. ↩︎
  3. https://www.watchmannee.org/scriptural-teachings.html ↩︎
  4. Abraham Heschel, The Insecurity of Freedom, p. 257. ↩︎
  5. Abraham Heschel, Man Is Not Alone, p. 58. ↩︎

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The Bible

Let’s start with some fun facts… 1

#1 There is no physical description of Jesus in the Bible.

It’s difficult to believe, but we don’t really know what Jesus looked like, there’s no actual description of Him in the Bible.

#2 David had blood on his hands.

Before David was 18 years old, he killed 200 Philistines as a dowry for marriage to King Saul’s daughter. In the middle of his life, David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen (2 Samuel 10:18) or seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen (as recorded in 1 Chronicles 19:18). David killed every male in Edom (1 Kings 11:15.) Then in 2 Samuel 11, towards the end of his life, David sleeps with Bathsheba, and has her Husband killed. Some attest that David killed under God, or that God was ok with it but 1 Chronicles 22:8 seems to say otherwise, it tells us that God did not to allow David to build the temple: “You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.” Furthermore, according to 1 Chronicles 21: 1, 5-14 God killed 70,000 men because of David’s continued sins. In one of his final acts as King of Israel, David gives his son and heir Solomon a hit list — “a last will and testament worthy of a dying Mafia capo,” says Bible scholar and translator Robert Alter — and the biblical scene may have been the inspiration for the final scene of The Godfather.

#3 The shortest verse in the Bible Is two words (three in the original Greek).

John 11:35 says that after his friend Lazarus died, “Jesus wept.” In Greek, it’s actually three words, Edakrysen ho Iēsous, but it’s still the shortest.

#4 The complete Christian Bible has been translated into 756 languages.

This is approximately 10% of all existing languages.

#5 The number of books in the Bible varies.

All Christian Bibles contain at least 39 books in the Old Testament and 27 books in the New Testament for a total of 66. However, numbers vary between different Christian denominations. The Catholic Bible contains 73 books, while Orthodox Bibles contain between 79-86 books since there is no universally sanctioned canon in the Orthodox churches.

#6 The Bible is the best-selling book in the world.

The Guinness Book of World Records says the Bible is both the best-selling and the most widely disseminated book in the world. (It is also the number one shoplifted item in the world.)

#7 God is never specifically alluded to in the Book of Esther.

In this book, Esther is a Jewish heroine who ultimately saves her people from a murderous plot. However, one interesting fact about the book of Esther is that God is never mentioned at all in the story, causing some, such as Protestant Reformer Martin Luther, to argue that it shouldn’t be included in the Bible at all. 

#8 Genesis contains two different stories of the creation of humans.

Genesis 1 says God created humans who merely appear at his insistence. But in Genesis 2, God forms a man (Hebrew: Adam) out of dust and breathes life into him. Later, he takes a rib from Adam to create Eve. Some say the story is recursive, some say it is a continuation of the first story.

#9 Many common phrases in the modern world originated with the Bible.

“Apple of my eye” — Deuteronomy 2:10
“Wolf in sheep’s clothing” — Matthew 7:15
“By the skin of our teeth” — Job 19:20
“Drop in the bucket” — Isaiah 40:15

Some have attested that there are more than 300 of these.2

#10 It wasn’t until the 13th century CE that chapters and verses were added.

The Masoretes were groups of Jewish scribe-scholars who worked from around the end of the 5th through 10th centuries CE. Each group compiled a system of pronunciation and grammatical guides in the form of diacritical notes (niqqud niqqud or nikud “dottin), on the external form of the biblical text in an attempt to standardize the pronunciation, paragraph and verse divisions, and cantillation of the Hebrew Bible. However, there are approximately 875 differences in opinion on the interpretation of the punctuation throughout the Hebrew Bible. 3 The Masoretes devised the vowel notation system for Hebrew that is still widely used, as well as the trope symbols used for cantillation.4 The original writings of the Bible had no divisions between verses (or even letters). Stephen Langton, an Archbishop of Canterbury, created the modern chapter divisions in 1227 CE.

#11 We have no original writings of any Biblical book.

One shocking fact about the Bible is that the manuscripts we have of every book of the Bible are copies of copies of copies of copies, etc.

#12 Paul probably didn’t say that women should be silent in church.

In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul is instructing the church at Corinth on how to worship in an orderly manner. Suddenly, though, in verses 34-35, he writes several sentences about how women should not speak in church. Scholars have long recognized that a later scribe probably added this to Paul’s letter. If you take out those sentences, the book makes more sense.

#13 The book of Genesis was written by three different authors.

Most people think Moses write all 5 books of the Torah, but scholars would strongly disagree. Genesis alone was written by at least three authors. As we don’t know specifically who the authors were, we call these authors J, E, and P. The J source called God “Yahweh” (J is the first letter in the German spelling of Yahweh). The E source called God “Elohim” and the P source stands for “priestly” since that author was mostly concerned with ceremonial rules and requirements for priests. The author of Deuteronomy is also then referred to as “D” as he seems to be another author.

#14 The oldest complete Bible dates to the 4th century.

It’s called Codex Sinaiticus and contains the entire Old and New Testaments, plus some books that were later excluded.

#15 The authors of the New Testament read the Greek version of the Old Testament — called the Septuagint —rather than the Hebrew.

This led to some interesting mistranslations. One of the most interesting was made in Isaiah 7:14 which says “Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son and shall name him Immanuel.” The Greek translation, however, changed the word “almah,” meaning “young woman,” to “virgin.” This would later be used by the author of Matthew as proof of Jesus’ virgin birth.


The Bible is God’s Word, and the Word was flesh, but the Bible isn’t God or Jesus Himself. Does that actually make sense?

A good friend of mine has put it like this, “Biblicism assumes every verse carries the same weight, that Leviticus 20 and Luke 15 should be read exactly the same way—regardless of covenant, context, or Christ. That sounds faithful. But it’s not.5

Because when every word carries the same weight, you can make the Bible say anything you want.

And today, that’s exactly what’s happening.
Verses are ripped out of context to extort personal motives
To silence grief.
To justify violence.
To control others.

The Bible is primarily a narrative love story of covenant faithfulness, one encounter after another telling stories of transparent interactions with the Lord.

The Bible is told in times of ancient cultures and characters that may or may not have application to us today. It was not written to us but for us.6 There isn’t anything systematic about it. We attempt to codify, analyze, and organize and to some degree then lose touch with the central theme, the growing disconnection between humanity and the God that created them with intention of exactly the opposite, growing infinitely together, rather than apart. We want to read the story through our own western eyes, but the genre falls far short of those expectations. The Bible is a book about failures and triumphs, despair and hope and the river of human emotions of living in this broken world. The text speaks to us, not in creeds and doctrines and religious acronyms but in very plain verbiage that appeals to all.

Brian Zahnd, puts it this way,7 I’m an ancient Egyptian. I’m a comfortable Babylonian. I’m a Roman in his villa. That’s my problem. See, I’m trying to read the Bible for all it’s worth, but I’m not a Hebrew slave suffering in Egypt. I’m not a conquered Judean deported to Babylon. I’m not a first century Jew living under Roman occupation. I’m a citizen of a superpower. I was born among the conquerors. I live in the empire. But I want to read the Bible and think it’s talking to me. This is a problem.

The Essenes, Pharisees, Sadducees, and other first century groups didn’t necessarily share the same “canon” (the word didn’t even exist at that time) but they did have sacred writings, writings that facilitated their practice of living according to God’s will.  When you really think about the relationship between our chosen Bible and the religious practice of groups today, it’s pretty much the same thing.  Perhaps we need to keep this in mind when we engage in debate about the meaning of any particular text.8

That said, the Holy Spirit does not provide an unambiguous interpretation of every given text. Every time we read the Bible we have to interpret what we read. Interpreting just means making sense of a text—it is not a special skill reserved for difficult passages. The ways we go about making sense of the Bible will be influenced by our frames of reference and cultural expectations. Sometimes these can interfere with our ability to hear the intended meaning of the biblical authors.

Keeping in mind the origin of the Bible and overall purpose of Scripture can help orient our expectations as we read. When reading a particular text, we should consider the author’s intentions, literary forms and conventions, language, and cultural background of the original audience.9

Vernon K. Robbins in his book, Exploring the Texture of Texts: A Guide to Socio-Rhetorical Interpretation says that words themselves work in complicated ways to communicate meanings that we only partially understand” and in “that meanings themselves have their meanings by their relation to other meanings”. Given these presuppositions, any serious reader will benefit by exploring the multiple layers or the many textures of texts.10

The Bible is not a Western scientific book.  Its categories of reality are not the categories of our scientific perspective.  Its view of life is not the compartmentalized packaging of research.  It does not seek to predict and control. “The categories of the Bible are not principles to be comprehended but events to be continued.  The life of him who joins the covenant of Abraham continues the life of Abraham.  Abraham endures forever.  We are Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.”11

Heschel’s insight should cause us to reconsider how we regard the Bible.  In the West we are likely to view the Bible as a sourcebook for spiritual insights or a jumbled systematic theology or a God-inspired Boy Scout handbook of answers to life’s perplexing questions.  What we usually do not think about the Bible is that it is simply a record of God’s encounters with Israel.  We don’t see the Bible as a story, a recollection of the emotional involvement of God and men.  We think of the Bible as a book of spiritual information rather than a history of divine encounters.  Heschel is right.  If we think of the Bible from a Western point of view, we will look for the “21 irrefutable principles” rather than recognizing the emotional reaction of awe.  We will read the Bible as if it were Fodor’s guidebook to life on earth rather than reading it as the expressions of men and women who discovered God’s presence along the way.

When Isaiah says that the “word of our God” stands forever, does he mean that all those theological categories, divine attributes, creedal answers, and holy platitudes are eternal?  Or does he mean that the experience of God found in prophetic revelation is always life transforming?  Is Isaiah writing about Messianic prophecies or is he describing what it means to be overwhelmed by God’s holiness?  If “word” debar is the speaking of God (not the written words in our biblical texts), then the record we have is not the same as hearing God’s word.  The record is second-hand information; the voice is the direct encounter with majesty.  Perhaps the Bible is what’s left over after God reveals Himself.12

If this is a new conversation to you I would recommend starting with Simply Christian and then trying The Day the Revolution Began both by NT Wright. The first book will give you a scent of Wright’s Big Story, and the second wades into the details. Wright’s genius in my opinion is challenging the questions that Luther and Calvin tried to answer when reforming the Roman Catholic Church in the 16th century. He is an evangelical writing to evangelicals. But he thinks that evangelicals should basically start over when interpreting the Bible’s bigger story. While I do not end up subscribing to everything he maintains, listening to him challenge long-held views within the Western Christian tradition is refreshing and will lead us to think for ourselves, especially when trying to rethink our original questions.

  1. https://www.bartehrman.com/facts-about-the-bible/ ↩︎
  2. https://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/sayings.htm ↩︎
  3. Louis Ginzberg, Caspar Levias. “Ben Naphtali”Jewish Encyclopedia. ↩︎
  4. Sommer, Benjamin D. (1999). “Revelation at Sinai in the Hebrew Bible and in Jewish Theology”The Chicago Journal of Religion79 (3): 422–451. doi:10.1086/490456ISSN 0022-4189 – via University of Chicago Press. ↩︎
  5. https://pauldazet.substack.com/p/the-bible-isnt-the-fourth-member ↩︎
  6. https://www.biola.edu/blogs/good-book-blog/2021/scripture-is-for-us-but-not-to-us ↩︎
  7. https://brianzahnd.com/2014/02/problem-bible/ ↩︎
  8. Avivah Gottlieb Zornberg, The Particulars of Rapture: Reflections on Exodus (Schocken Books, New York: 2001), p. 2. ↩︎
  9. https://biologos.org/common-questions/how-should-we-interpret-the-bible ↩︎
  10. Vernon K. Robbins. Exploring the Texture of Texts: A Guide to Socio-Rhetorical
    Interpretation. Valley Forge, Pennsylvania: Trinity Press International, 1996. x + 148
    pp. $15.00, paper, ISBN 978-1-56338-183-6. ↩︎
  11.  Abraham Heschel, Man’s Quest for God, p. 88 ↩︎
  12. https://skipmoen.com/2023/07/the-bible-at-large-rewind/ ↩︎

TOV RIVER TRIP JUNE 28-JULY 1

We are planning a Wisconsin River trip from Saturday to Monday. This is a “plan your own way” trip. Comments will be open here for discussion. We will be traveling from Spring Green to the Muscoda which is approximately 25 miles on the river. Although this sounds significant, it isn’t a lot of paddling, about 8 hours total. We will camp at a sandbar not far from the put out at Muscoda in case some people want to take out Saturday night (with Malachi).

10:30 am arrive ad put in at Peck’s landing in Spring Green: 13451 State Road 23, Spring Green, WI 53588, United States. From here you can have brunch on the beach, or paddle up the river to tower hill while you wait for vehicles to drop off cars at the takeout. Essentially, the way this works is you unload all your gear and then all the cars drive 30 minutes to the takeout and shuttle back together in one vehicle. That way when we are done with the trip we only have to pickup the shuttle vehicle. But there will be some downtime so paddling up to Tower Hill is a fun little quick excursion.

Once the drop off vehicles are back, we will start our Journey. On Saturday we will paddle 10-15 Miles. Wooded bluffs with beautiful limestone and sandstone outcroppings lie along the south side of this downstream excursion; some even rise right out of the river. The plan is to get to Muscoda by Sunaday Night/Monday Morning. The following maps came from this site.

Muscoda Boat Landing: E Water St, Muscoda, WI 53573-9153

Victoria Riverside Park Landing at Muscoda
River: The landing is on a tiny, rocky peninsula that extends out from the left bank as you approach the Highway 80 Bridge. You will see a covered pavilion
near the access. Riverside Park and the town of Muscoda are behind the landing.

The park is owned and maintained by the town of Muscoda and offers shaded picnic areas and camping. Trailer ramp, trailer turnaround, parking area, restrooms, water.


Muscoda is pronounced ‘muh – skoh – day’, not ‘muh – skoh – dah’.


Was thinking we could hit Devils Lake State park for some cliff jumping and rock climbing on Monday on the way home! Meet at the north shore then hike the West Bluff Trail south to the Dead Tree Wall Rock Climbing area. 43°25’17.4″N 89°44’18.3″W Here is a pin.

Nice Steep 50 to 60 Ft. wall with good routes to be found just to the north of Reclining Tower area as one walks north along the West Bluff Trail. The top of Dead Tree Wall is very close to to the trail. There is a prominent central crack line called….you guessed it… “Dead Tree Crack”.Easy 3rd class gully just south of the wall. Don’t go directly down the section of the gully that lies closets to the West Bluff Trail but ease down a tad bit further from the trail. You will find it easier. Just follow the slope down along the ever growing wall to the base after negotiating the gully.

If we aren’t there, we are at ROCK 8 for swimming 2/3 of the way from the trailhead south on Tumbled Rocks Trail. Just under a half-mile south of the north shore beach on Devil’s Lake State Park’s Tumbled Rocks trail, you’ll come upon the park’s popular diving rock, “Rock 8”. Rock 8, which looks a bit like the front end of a whale from the water, can provide a diving platform ranging from 4-12 feet above the water depending on the lake level.

Why is it called Rock 8?

At one time a surveyor camp from the University of Wisconsin was located on the south-west corner of Devil’s Lake. At that time a variety of locations around the lake were numbered for training purposes. Rock 8, as you have probably guessed, had a big “8” painted on it.

Michal and the Dance of David

Michal (/mɪˈxɑːl/; Hebrew: מִיכַל) was, was the younger daughter of King Saul and the first wife of David (1 Samuel 18:20–27) where it is said in 1 Samuel 18:20 and 18:28 that Michal loved David. The narrative does not indicate whether this is reciprocated. 1 Her story is shrouded in transparency and strange allegiance creating a mystery of interpretation. What can we glean from her part of the story? Why is she significant in the pages of the text?

David’s early success was marked by his victory over Goliath, the Philistine giant,detailed in 1 Samuel 17, where David declares, “The LORD, who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear, will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine” (1 Samuel 17:37). His triumph brought him immediate fame and favor in the eyes of the people and King Saul.

However, David’s rising popularity soon became a source of intense jealousy for Saul. We read in 1 Samuel 18:7-9 “the women sang out: ‘Saul has slain his thousands, and David his tens of thousands.’ And Saul was furious and resented this song. ‘They have ascribed tens of thousands to David,’ he said, ‘but only thousands to me. What more can he have but the kingdom?’ And from that day forward, Saul kept a jealous eye on David.”

David was 15 years old when he fought Goliath and shortly after was wed and found himself fleeing Saul all within three short years.2

The story begins to go south by the time Saul invited David to marry Michal. The text tells us that Saul’s daughter Michal was in love with David, and when they told Saul about it, he was pleased. “I will give her to him,” he thought, “so that she may be a snare to him and so that the hand of the Philistines may be against him.” (1 Sa 18:20–21a). But when David was offered a bride, he replied, “I am a poor and lightly esteemed man”, meaning that he was unable to provide a bride price, especially one of a king’s daughter. Saul then advised him that no bride price was required except for the foreskins of 100 Philistines, to which David then “answered” by killing 200 Philistines. In the ancient world this would have been a “double portion” sentiment essentially expressing that the dowry was far greater than the price asked and also communicating a message that he was able and willing. It was often viewed in a client benefactor relationship as the returning of a reciprocal gestured gift. But I want you to also consider the implications of the text. This is a 16–17-year-old boy (likely with a forming army) who kills 200 philistines.

Can you deconstruct any traditional (David was a man after God’s own heart) thoughts you might have on David to just take a step back and unbiasedly consider the repercussions of this? David was anointed to bring back Israel to God. Saul represents the world. David is quickly enticed by the praises of the world, the flesh, and the kingship that he will do nearly anything to continue his rise to power. I doubt his interest in the wedding to Michal was much more than a political step. We don’t seem to see any inkling of more than that in the text. But consider what David did, at the request of Saul, the worldly king who at this point is positioned in the text as one being opposite of God, kills 200 philistines and brings back part of their genitals.

There is nothing in the text to hint that God thought this was a good idea, there is no divine sanction given; we are simply reading the narrative of what took place. You are always being mentored by someone and here we see David begin to be mentored by the ways of the world. Some even go as far to say that King Saul was demon possessed at this time.3 You have to ask the question then, is this cold-blooded murder? Is it an act of war and permissible in the ancient world? Why would David do this? The evident answer is it was a way of personally solidifying the throne rather than relying on God’s timing. The reality of the situation was likely that Each foreskin represents a life taken. Not by natural disaster, chaos or an act of God, not even by war, or accident. Each life was taken by David, on the jealous whim of King Saul.

By the time David is only 18 years old, Saul turns on David throwing the Javelin at him causing David to flee and rally some men for protection. Michal chooses the welfare of David over the wishes of her father. When Saul’s messengers search for David in order to kill him, Michal sends them away while pretending he was ill and laid up in bed. She lets David down through a window and hides teraphim in his bed as a ruse. J. Cheryl Exum points out that although she risked her life in helping him, after he leaves the court, he makes no attempt to contact her.4 This might imply a one-sided love, but we would have to deduce that as the text doesn’t clearly say one way or another. It could also be an act to protect her so that she would not have been implicated or even killed. We also don’t know why she helped David or her heart’s intentions; the text doesn’t give us that. I don’t know that at this point in the story we should be deducing much. There don’t seem to be any great biblical takeaways, it is merely character development, but don’t miss that. I used to think that David’s heart was “pure” at the beginning but after really thinking through the early parts of this story and particularly the 200 foreskins and likely trying to assume a place in the kingdom for himself, I am no longer convinced. On the other hand, we all make mistakes, but hopefully that doesn’t entail the murder of 200 people.

What is even more strange than this is that within a short period of time from this instance, David sought refuge among the Philistines, specifically with Achish, the king of Gath. In 1 Samuel 27, David and his men settled in Ziklag, a town given to him by Achish. David lived among the Philistines for a year and four months, during which he conducted raids against various groups while maintaining the pretense of loyalty to Achish.

Some have tried to argue that David killed 200 Philistines as some kind of holy sanction in the name of the LORD to drive out and annihilate them. I don’t think this is a faithful view. The text doesn’t make any effort to suggest such a “smile” from God and the over whelming commands of YHWH would not line up with this kind of violence or murder particularly in form of a payment or dowry. You also have to ask the question would God be aligned with the Philistines?

The Philistines played a crucial role in the events leading to Saul’s downfall. In 1 Samuel 28-31, the Philistines gathered their forces to fight against Israel. David, still under the guise of a Philistine ally, was initially expected to join the battle. However, the Philistine commanders, wary of David’s potential betrayal, refused to allow him to fight alongside them (1 Samuel 29:4-7).

The battle culminated in a disastrous defeat for Israel at Mount Gilboa, where Saul and his sons, including Jonathan, were killed. This defeat paved the way for David’s ascension to the throne of Israel. If you are paying attention, you are going to figure out that David aided the Philistines in fighting against Israel so that he could assume the throne of Israel. In other words, he put Himself in alliance with those that God had commanded clearly not to be in alliance with. Again, if you can allow yourself to read unbiasedly, it sure seems like David is making decisions away from the heart of God and violating several of God’s commands rather than being one who aligns with them.

The plot thickens, while David was in hiding Saul gave Michal as a wife to Palti, son of Laish. Again, the Biblical narrative doesn’t tell us much. Was this an act to blot out David from Israel as if he were dead? David will also go on to take on several other wives (which should also allude to some thigs in your plot and character analysis), but when David becomes king of Judah and Ish-bosheth (Michal’s brother, and Saul’s son) is king of Israel, David demands her return to him in return for peace between them. Ish-bosheth complied, despite the public protests of Palti (2 Samuel 3:13–16.) Again, the text doesn’t give us a lot. Is this David wanting his first love back or more of a power play? Robert Alter observes that by stressing that he had paid the requested bride price, David makes a legal argument as a political calculation to reinforce his legitimacy as a member of the royal house. Alter notes the contrast between David’s measured negotiations and Palti’s public grief.5 It appears Michal had a real relationship with the second husband, as he weeps bitterly as she’s taken away (2 Sam. 3:12). We don’t hear from her again until that fateful day when the Ark came into Jerusalem. But this could account for bitterness. Is she a woman in captivity?

This is where things get interesting. I have said it for many years; David is a wild card. Most people think of him as a guy with a heart after God, but as I have made the point subsequentially that isn’t biblically accurate. John Walton has a book coming out on this topic. I am not sure I could trust David, or who knows, maybe he would be my best friend. It’s messy. It is complicated. I have no idea. He loved the Lord but seemed so far away at times. He did great things for the kingdom but was nearly solely responsible for Israel’s demise and set the table for Israel completing turning from the Lord. He had been given everything necessary to do great things for the Lord but seemed to fall hugely short. The rest of the story of David and Michal continues to show this sort of messiness begging the question, what exactly is going on.

When David brought the ark in the first time, he did so in complete ignorance. Here is the danger when every generation does not go back to the word of God and study fresh without consideration of the traditions established by the previous generation. The ark had been carted around the countryside off and on and housed for many years so that a generation arose that had no idea that God had legislated transporting the ark. In 1 Chron. 15:12, David admits his error – notice the words, “we did not seek the Lord according to the rule.” Wow, that is a Geraldo episode!

After Michal was returned to David, she criticized him for dancing in an undignified manner, as he brought the Ark of the Covenant to the newly captured Jerusalem in a religious procession (2 Samuel 6:14–22). But if you dive into the context of 2 Samuel 6 this is very complicated. We need some prior context. 2 Samuel 6:3-8 and 1 Chronicles 13:7-11 tell us that when the Ark of the Covenant was being brought back from the land of the Philistines Uzzah drove the cart on which the ark was placed when David sought to bring it up to Jerusalem. When the oxen stumbled, making the ark tilt, Uzzah steadied the ark with his hand, in direct violation of the divine law (Numbers 4:15), and he was immediately killed by the Lord for his error. This seems harsh, but that’s a different article. David, displeased because Yahweh had killed Uzzah,6 called the place where this occurred “Perez-uzzah”, which means “to burst out against Uzzah” according to 2 Samuel 6:8 and 1 Chronicles 13:11. That is quite a statement against the Lord. Consider that for a moment and I will remind you that it was a public profession. Can you imagine a “heart after God’s heart” making that kind of a statement?

David was afraid to bring the ark any further (after making a statement about God like that I would be too) and placed it in the house of Obed-Edom the Gittite for what ended up being only three months. The Lord then blessed Obed-edom and David went and brought up the ark of God into the city of David. Was David just in it for the blessings? At this point you should be wondering what exactly is happening between David and God. God kills Uzzah, David is mad, David drops off the Ark, God blesses them, David then wants it back and goes and gets it; then does one of his famous naked dances in the street and his wife gets upset.

There is a word play in Hebrew that might describe David dancing like a mad man and the implication would be that he was mad at God. David danced before the Lord. The Hebrew word used for before is lipeni. This is often used as a preposition, but it can also be used as an adjective. As a preposition, it would simply mean that David danced before God. But as an adjective, it would mean that David danced in God’s presence.  Actually, it would be more correct to say that David danced with God. But In Hebrew this is a contranym, meaning it can be a dance or a tussle. I say this because the Hebrew word for dance that is used here, it is karar.  The common word for dance in Hebrew is mawkhole, but that is not used here.  In fact, karar is used only two times in the Hebrew Bible, both in this passage.  In extra-Biblical sources karar does not mean to dance at all, it means to spin around like a top and pictured as children fighting in ancient times. karar in its Semitic root means one who is possessed. In verse 20, we learn his wife Michal was upset with David because he danced naked.  The word naked or uncovered however is the word nigelah in Hebrew, in English we would say to become “unhinged.” Are you following me? The Hebrew words are specific in the text and are purposeful. The implication is he was acting like a fighting child. This could be good or bad. Was he actually “dancing” beautifully with the Lord? If so, why the strange use of Hebrew words and the play on them? The Hebrew verbiage seems to imply a negative childish act of fighting with God or being mad in the way that he danced.

Michal accuses him of going around “half-naked.” The Hebrew word is the passive form of גילה gi-lay, which is נגלה nig-la, and means to be revealed. Her meaning in 2 Sam. 6:20 seems to be “to expose oneself.” Was it a naked dance? But we need to understand grammatical voices in the text as a texture of interpretation. This is an accurate account of what Michal said, but not necessarily an accurate account of what David actually did. Particularly because the text itself says that he was clothed.

Michal may have been just in criticizing David. Her words are accurate. David was not behaving in a kingly fashion, and she accused him of taking a sexual overtone in the way he showed himself. You might read into the text an accusation of pride here. But in a way she was correct, this was not a “kingly” gesture, and it may not have been portrayed as a “Godly” gesture to some. In light of what we have discovered, interpreting this as any kind of a “God honoring” dance seems far-fetched, but that is what David claims it was.

The ephod David wore was a garment usually reserved for priests and those ministering before the Lord.7 As David led the procession of the ark into the city, he laid aside the royal garments and worshiped the Lord, in ecstatic joy. This is complicated. David wasn’t a priest, although all of Israel was supposed to have been priests. Is this a slap in the face or a returning to the divine plan? In some ways Michal and others might have even wondered if God would strike him down for going from wearing a priest’s ephod to being nearly naked, especially knowing what he did in terms of naming the place of Uzzah’s death. This is reminiscent of a controversial super bowl half time show of modern America. Israel knew how to party, and this could have been construed many different ways.

The text tells us that “David danced before the Lord with all his might” (2 Sam. 6:14). But this could be interpreted several different ways. It doesn’t say that is what the Lord thought or received it as. It is more like a narrator at a parade, or a restating of what David said. Michal condemned David for dressing or undressing in such a common fashion and lowering himself to dance and rejoice with the common people as the ark was being brought into Jerusalem. Was she right? Was she simply embarrassed or could she have been spiritually concerned? Is there any way this could have been an act of humility on David’s part?

Some have made the point that perhaps he was attempting to be a nobody in his nakedness. Was he acting in pride or humility? Sometimes that is a fine line. Was Michal in alignment with God or worried about her own reputation? Whatever your thoughts, there is an element of the dance that foreshadows Jesus. David was humble to dance unlike the perceived character of the world’s expectations for a king. Jesus also in humility, did not meet the world’s expectations for a king. Perhaps in the same mindset, David knew that “poor in spirit” was the way he needed to approach God. God is the one he needed to honor, not himself. It is also worth considering that the priests were supposed to be the image of humility before the Lord and David in stripping down to nearly nothing was showing his complete transparent humility before Israel and the Lord. This could also be a foreshadow of Christ’s ultimate act of humility wearing nearly the same thing to the cross.

When later questioned by Michal David’s response is interesting, “It was before the Lord … and I will celebrate before the Lord. I will make myself yet more contemptible than this, and I will be abased in your eyes. But by the female servants of whom you have spoken, by them I shall be held in honor” (2 Sam. 6:21-22). Was his dance an act of pride, humility, or madness? He seems to get quite offensive with Michal, especially if he then withholds offspring from her. I will remind you that such dancing or leaping, seems to be a posture of the heart affirmed by Jesus (Luke 6:22, 23). I bring this up because as we question, we should be reminded that Jesus came to clarify and set several records straight. However, the context of Luke 6 doesn’t seem to be pointing towards David either, so I am not sure that applying it is a faithful hermeneutic.

Saul had little inkling for anything Godly. Maybe Michal didn’t either. But perhaps she has lost any passion to truly seek to know God. The procession to bring the sacred box, called the ark, to Jerusalem was a very joyful event and much like the procession for a bride on her wedding day. On a groom’s wedding day, it was accustomed for a man to dance in front of the bride. He may be an upstanding man; but at the wedding, he was happy for people to laugh with him. On that day, he desired no honor for himself, he desired only that the bride should receive honor. This also might give us some implications to the foreshadowing of Christ as the Bride of the church which was intended to have been Israel.8

I want to ask a challenging question for your deep consideration. Does the Bible actually tell us that the Lord was pleased by David’s dance? In the next chapter Nathan starts by telling David that the Lord is “with Him”, but then Nathan gets a word from the Lord that seems contrary and the Lord doesn’t sound pleased, in fact David is downright reprimanded by the WORD OF THE LORD. But David’s responsive prayer seems very humble in reply. OHHHHHH This back and forth….

David rebuked Michal in the Bible for criticizing his exuberant dancing before the Lord, perhaps emphasizing his devotion to God over royal propriety, or was it possibly a holy disgust? Could Michal actually be the voice (picture) of one that is holy, and the lack of children shows the tribulation of Israel before God? Either way, this incident further strained their relationship, and the Bible notes that Michal remained childless until her death. 9 While some interpret this as a divine punishment for her judgment of David’s worship, I don’t think that is the case or the nature of God. It is more likely that David, in his anger, withheld himself from her sexually, especially considering his other options. King David had several wives, including Michal, Abigail of Carmel, Ahinoam of Jezreel, Maacah, Haggith, Abital, and Eglah, as well as concubines. The estrangement between Michal and David, rooted in their differing perspectives on loyalty to God and the monarchy, ultimately led to their childlessness and the end of Saul’s lineage.

Let’s consider for a moment that the barrenness was a message from God. If your theology finds yourself believing David was pure in his actions and Michal was not in alignment with God or David but rather represents the world in this story, then her barrenness might also be significant as understanding foreshadowing to Christ. If the world is against Christ, then perhaps they are made barren, which means to no longer produce life… Choose Jesus or choose death. That might be an interesting implication of the text to those unbelieving of Jesus as the Messiah, which ironically was near the same cultural audience several hundred years later. Would barrenness be seen as then a punishment from God? That might be theologically problematic if you believe God is only capable of what is good. It is also interesting that Michal is not described as being beautiful (when other brides sometimes are), though Rabbinic tradition holds that she was of “entrancing beauty.”10

It is also worth noting that from this time on the Levites facilitated the worship of the nation of Israel from the days of King David to the days of Nehemiah in the temple with musical instruments and singing but not dancing according to Numbers 1:48-54, 8:15; 1 Chronicles 23:1-6; Nehemiah 10:39, 11:22. Does this carry any implications?

First of all, I don’t want to shape your conclusion but provide a basis of better interpretation. I am not spoon-feeding babies here.

This story is ugly in so many ways. But it didn’t have to be. This is why I am so conflicted with David and his character. What if, instead of rebuking her, he loved her? What if he sought to bring healing to her bitter heart? It is the kindness of the Lord that leads us to repentance (Romans 2:4). While I love David’s zeal, I see a little bit of pride and childishness in his response to his wife.11 But then again, what if we are really missing the big picture? What if God was smiling on David because his heart had changed in the dance off or wrestling match. Could the composure of David’s prayer in the next chapter finally show him bringing a heart of repentance before the Lord?

Michal remained barren until the end of her life. But I think David could have brought healing to her wounded heart. Traditionally we hear things like David had a heart after God and danced before the Lord and God was pleased, but the text doesn’t actually say or even imply anything close to that upon more careful reading.

  1. In 1 Samuel 18:26, David is “pleased … to become the king’s son-in-law” but we are not told whether he was pleased to have married Michal. See Cohen, M., “The Transparency of Saul”, European Judaism, volume 39, no. 1, 2006, for a comparison of the transparent presentation of Saul and the opaqueness of David’s character in 1 Samuel. ↩︎
  2. https://thebiblehistoryguy.com/blog/f/how-old-was-david-when-he-fought-goliath ↩︎
  3. https://degreesofglory.wordpress.com/2018/11/15/why-200-philistine-foreskins-matter/ ↩︎
  4.  “Michal: Bible”Jewish Women’s Archive. ↩︎
  5. Alter, Robert (1981). “Characterization and the Art of Reticence”The Art of Biblical Narrative. London: George Allen & Unwin. ISBN 9780567453280. ↩︎
  6. www.Bibler.org – Dictionary – Uzzah”. 2012-06-06. ↩︎
  7. Ginzberg, Louis. The Legends of the Jews. Vol. 4, Book 2. pp. 100–101. ↩︎
  8. Osiek, Carolyn. “The Bride of Christ: a problematic wedding – Ephesians 5:22-33.” Biblical Theology Bulletin, Spring, 2002. Web: 20 Oct 2010.  ↩︎
  9. https://santhisworld.com/33-meritorious-michal-in-the-bible/ ↩︎
  10. Ginzberg, Louis“The Family of David”The Legends of the Jews – via philologos.org. ↩︎
  11. https://www.roncantor.com/post/lessons-from-king-david-s-wife-michal-not-what-you-are-expecting ↩︎

DOES SIN SEPERATE US | FROM GOD?

When I was in High school attending a rather large evangelical free church, we had some missionaries come in to train us on street evangelism. The idea was to memorize a step plan for salvation that we could easily regurgitate on the streets. The core of it was based on convincing someone that according to Adams sin we had been separated from God and that only by professing with our mouth and praying the sinner’s prayer could we escape eternal torment and damnation. As there is arguably some truth to that statement, the presentation not only created some terrible theological implications of the gospel message (both to those presenting and those being presented to) but also wasn’t necessarily the best Biblical framework. Of course, as “good” kids we all just went along with it, at least initially. As you can imagine this led to some really awkward conversations in the street and left several students wondering if this is what Christianity is all about whether they really wanted to be part of it. The following year a different but similar group came essentially “training” us to try to do the same thing evangelizing our hometown. But then something happened, this time (likely based on their previous poor experience) several of the students started to transparently challenge the process. I remember it almost as if it was the enslaved rebels of Star Wars questioning the empirical ideals. Questions like, “where does it actually say this in the Bible?” and “Do you really think this is the action that the text had in mind when it was written?” Another student said, “I don’t think I want anything to do with a plan like this, I didn’t come to Jesus to force my friends into submission.” I could go on and on. The training group couldn’t really answer them with any kind of logical explanations, and I was quite disheartened by the whole thing. The night resulted in half the youth group leaving early bailing on street evangelism to go out for ice cream; while the other half (some likely afraid of their parent’s repercussions if they left) continued with the group to evangelize. I am sure there was a small percentage of the “good” kids that convinced themselves this was what good Christian kids should do. I was also skeptical of Billy Graham “crusades” as a kid. And before I continue, I want to say that even though I still don’t entirely agree with these crusades and this kind of step plan evangelistic plans I do believe God uses it in powerful ways. I know many that came to faith this way and then over the course of time found a better theology. But my heart desires to say, let’s start with a better theology!

This youth group interaction was a monumental occurrence in my life that made me start questioning why Christians do what they do and whether the Bible actually said things like the church traditionally claimed. Instead of driving me away from Christianity, as some thought questioning the faith would do, it drove me towards a lifelong beautiful “expedition” towards understanding the incredible word of God and His nature. I don’t know of anyone who has had such joy in the journey. This is my love language, and I pray that it becomes yours.

The central question for your consideration is does the Bible actually say and teach what we have so often regurgitated that “sin has separated us from God?” I will start by saying any time you here a doctrine and you can’t find one verse that clearly states what the doctrine is attempting to “make the gospel say,” the best advice might be to run. If the intent of God was to give us some crafty 4 step plan of salvation wouldn’t that be clearly laid out somewhere in the text? Yet in the “ROMANS ROAD” plan of salvation we have to jump all over Romans back and forth to try to understand the so called laid out plan. Similarly, if a doctrine states something simply in one sentence such as “sin separates us from God” shouldn’t the Bible also state it similarly if it is true? That would make sense. Yet something as engrained in our head such as the statement, “sin separates us from God” doesn’t ever seem to be stated that way anywhere in the text. We deduce it. That doesn’t make it wrong or untrue, it just raises some hermeneutic red flags that should cause you the need or desire to examine it.

What verses then tell us that we are separated from God by Sin?1 Here are the best ones coming straight from those that hold this type of framework:

Are there others? Well, if you think these are a stretch, the others that people claim support separation you’re going to have an even harder time with. These are the closest verses that the Bible has that state we are separated from God by our sin. If you google the question the first link will be “100 verses by open Bible Info”. I will say that almost none of them actually state we are separated from God2, but such a simple search certainly shows that someone thinks or has been traditionally conditioned to tell us that.3

The only verse above that actually comes close to simply stating that sin has separated us from God is Isaiah 59:2. At first reading I can see this, however when you start applying textures of interpretation you see the verse differently. Basic laws of any hermeneutic design say, don’t ever make a doctrine off of one verse. In other words, if there is only one verse that seems to say something that can’t be found elsewhere in the pages of the Bible it likely doesn’t say what you mean what you think. If it did there would be supporting verses. SO then theologically you should be asking the question, if this verse seems to say this, but there isn’t another verse that says it, could there be a different meaning for this text? This kind of thinking leads to a better or more faithful interpretation and overall agreement in your theological lens. John Walton interprets Isaiah 59 as highlighting the necessity of a savior due to humanity’s iniquities and moral failures, yep, we need that!4 The Hebrew word used here that is interpreted as the English word “separated” is  בָּדל (badal.) It is the same word used in Genesis one in the creation narrative used to describe the separation of the light, and water, day and night. Notice in these cases it isn’t a chasm that separates those things, and it is part of God’s order. In fact, the truth is that it is opposite to that way of thinking, day touches night beautifully. It is the most beautiful part of the day that we call sunrise and sunset. Where the land meets water is a beach! We all LOVE the beach. We want to dwell in beaches. We vacation on beaches. Do you see my point? To frame this word as division or a chasm that can’t be overcome isn’t Biblical. Sometimes beauty comes when the peace meets the chaos and that is often where God dwells in scripture. The Biblical picture is actually a “slice of heaven”, the most beautiful thing the world has seen. CS Lewis spent a great deal of time dwelling on this concept.5 Do you see what I am saying? Badal also is a form of setting something apart. You know the other Hebrew word that is used to say that? Kadosh – Holy. The context of Isaiah 59 is actually a word play in the form of a contranym. So yes, in one sense God is holy and sin is the opposite of Holiness, but God isn’t separated from us by that, He actually dwells close to it. The other problem with framing God so far away is that it is giving sin way too much power over you. I am not willing to give sin that kind of leverage or title in my life. God finds people in some of the darkest places. When you run away you think you are far from Him, but the Biblical truth is that God is right there for you. If you truly believe in the omnipresent of God than you have to take this theological perspective. To say there is a chasm between a person sinning and God doesn’t agree with the doctrine of omnipresence.

Furthermore, Isaiah 56 is a prophetic indictment to a people immersed in injustice, oppression, and violence. The “separation” here isn’t God walking away. It’s people who have closed their ears to God’s voice. It’s spiritual disconnection, not divine abandonment. There’s a difference between feeling distant from God and God actually being distant. God never leaves.6

Secondly, once we give our life to Jesus, sin doesn’t simply disappear. According to most plans of salvation logically that is what would make sense. If we are separated by God and we say the magic words than sin is no longer in our lives (the chasm would logically be bridged never to be empty again) but if sin truly separates, then it creates a theology that logically would mean that we would continually be in need of repetitive salvation prayers to bridge this gap over and over. We know that isn’t the case. It creates a poor theological framework. What is true is that we can make a heart and mind choice to live for Him and even though we are still in part of the earthly physical world we are free from the endearing result of sin which is death both in the physical life and eternally. That is grace. To actually believe in this great chasm, minimizes or does away with a Biblical concept of covenant grace. So, to frame sin as a separation from God logically and ontologically doesn’t make sense or follow the premise of the biblical story of God’s redemption of us. It misses the mark.

Furthermore, saying that sin has separated us from God frames the character of God in a way that doesn’t agree with the Bible. It leads us to thinks that from birth we naturally were being judged by the sin of those before us. Yet the Bible is clear that we are only responsible before the Lord for our own actions and not the actions of others. Yes, we are affected by others (perhaps even for generations) but that is slightly different. Affected and responsibility or having to earn something as a result of someone else’s past are different issues. This gets more into the original sin conversation than it does sin separation; but the two are certainly connected. If you haven’t watched or listened to the x44 series on original sin you should do that. Saying that we are always separated from God by sin assumes that when we “sin” God must turn his face or step away from us. That is not true. The overarching message of the Bible is that God does not leave us or forsake us. I wrote an article on this. Do you believe the nature of God gets angry and wrathful when you sin. Do you think God wants to smite you because you sin? That sounds monstrous doesn’t it, yet many peoples theology believes that. Yet God’s love for us couldn’t be more opposite of thinking that way. When we sin, God more than anything, grieves for us and wants to draw us closer to Him into His hand of providence. When we continue to sin God will eventually open his hand of protection and allow us to reap what we have sown. This is actually a more Biblical definition of wrath. We get what we had coming, God no longer protects. (Israel in exile is the archetypical picture of this, but God has always desired and welcomed them back with open arms, thus the prodigal son story and many more. There is no separation or barrier from God’s perspective.) When we think that God is separated from us by sin, we begin to believe that God loves us when we do good and leaves us when we don’t. Or perhaps we think that when we are in devotion to Him, He blesses us and when we are separated by sin He is done with us and can no longer use us for the kingdom. Those in the book of Job asked this question as a retribution principle and God was clear to answer at the end of the story that that is not His character. We have a series on that too. I am glad that isn’t the case. No one would have ever been used by God. Does God just leave us the second we screw up?

This is a great question. If you are following along and thinking through the texts, you might realize that in the Old Covenant there seem to be examples of separation from God even though the text never really says it so simply. (As I previously made the point, it could be deduced from the text.) Romans 8 seems to support a notion that in the Old Covenant before the cross we were separated from God. That could be why the cloud came and went from Israel’s trail. It could also show the veil between the holy of holies and the need for a priest. But then when Christ comes as our once and for all great high priest and the veil is torn at the cross, we become the temple of the holy spirit to which the separation is broken. In this sense there MIGHT have been a separation between God and the people in the Old Testament but Jesus (not necessarily the cross itself) removed any sense of being separated. The only problem with holding a view that there was separation in the Old Testament is that the text never actually says it. If the text really intended us to take away that notion wouldn’t one of the 39 books clearly state that? Yet they don’t, it has to be deduced which then makes it a theology of humankind. That should always be problematic to your theology and possibly a dangerous place to dwell. Another great question that then follows suite would be, “Is there a separation for the unbeliever?” I don’t think so. If you take the view that in the OT there was a separation between God and humanity it would be with everyone, not just unbelievers. The cloud and the veil support that theology. If that foreshadows the NT then it would take on the same ideology. Neither believer nor unbeliever are separated then. They are all close to God, God is never far off. This may sound different than what you have always been told but there isn’t anything that would disagree with it; in fact, it takes on a far better lens of agreement within all the texts. I can’t think of one verse that would actually make this a difficult view to hold.

Even though the Bible doesn’t seem to have the framework or state specifically that we are separated from God by sin wouldn’t that make sense. We have certainly always been told that -right? But since the Bible doesn’t say it, we would be left to deduce it. Is that faithful hermeneutics? Well, it can be, if you believe in systematic theology, you are already doing that sort of thing regularly. But Biblical theology questions those practices. In one sense it seems to follow logic that in a relationship if one side falls out of love or becomes distanced you might say they feel are even separated. We say that in broken marriages that grow apart all the time without micro analyzing it. But that doesn’t work biblically with God as one side of the relationship. We are told and shown this multiple times in the Bible. Jesus is the bride of Christ and even though the groom (sometimes viewed as Israel in the OT) was unfaithful, the bride remains completely faithful and therefore is not separated. The separation came from Israel creating a reason to be distanced but God Himself still never leaves or forsakes them in covenant love. Some would say God divorces Israel but that leaves some deep theological problems that need to be sorted if you go that way. The more accurate Biblical mosaic and unending motif of redemption is that despite the unfaithfulness of Israel God is near with open arms. To this design, even though someone distances themselves from God, (and in our human broken relationships) the same is not true of the character of God. God never distances himself from the lost, the divergent saved, the broken, the lost, or the unfaithful… God is always near (which is what the doctrine of omnipresence means, which is also a theology of humanity as long as we are making the statement.) It is important to have consistent theology. I have said many times that the reformed perspective of believing God is omnipresent and also believing that we can be separated from God doesn’t follow a logical pattern. The two views are at odds; they can’t both hold true. If you feel or sense that God is far away or you have severed your relationship, that is what you feel, but the reality and major thematic covenantal truth is that God hasn’t left you. This is true as a believer or unbeliever. God is always near; there is not a chasm between you and God.

The Bible never once states that we are separated from God by sin, but it states over and over that nothing can separate us from God. And Jesus solidifies this regularly if there were any doubt.


Some say God can’t be in the presence of Evil. That isn’t true either. God clearly sees evil. He is involvedengaged, and working redemption in real time and space. The idea that God literally can’t be near sin is a misreading of the text, and a dangerous concept or doctrine.7


Jesus shows us that God wasn’t separated from the sinful, that His heart was moved towards a deeper connection with those in sin than perhaps anyone else. Think about the relationship that Christ had with those in sin. How can you be separated and be in deep relationship at the same time? You can’t. Those two things are opposites. Yet Jesus had deep relationships and was NOT separated by sin to those dwelling in it. He drew a line on the ground for the woman in adultery turning back those who took offense, He touched and healed the unclean before they claimed any relationship with the father. He loved them before they had any semblance of knowing Him. He routinely shared a table with sinners and invited them to be in His sacred space. In other words, he didn’t build chasms between Himself and the sinful, rather He walked hand and hand with them shepherding them to Him. He entreated those that were immersed even drowning in their sin. That doesn’t sound like a cliff of separation to me. It sounds the opposite. It sounds and looks like relational love.

And when Jesus went to the cross, He entered fully into the consequence and depth of human sin, not to separate us from God, but to reveal how far God was willing to go to stay with us.8


This article isn’t meant to diminish sin. Sin is the opposite of God, but as I have made the case isn’t impenetrable. Sin is infectious, it hurts, it cuts, it wounds, it severs, it destroys and requires spiritual healing. Make no doubt there. Continually giving into sin is the road to death both physically in this life now and also to come in an eschatological sense (already not yet). Sin masks our identity in Christ and creates worldly thoughts of shame, pride, fear, insecurity, hurt, doubt, trauma, and so much more. Sin hurts not only you but those in relationship and covenant with you. Sin can severe your ability to walk in the spiritual prosperity that God has for you. Sin inhibits the freedom that God gives. Sin is the opposite of the peace that God manifests in us. Jesus came to take away the sin of the world. I am in no way diminishing the effects of sin on this world.

Dr. Matt and I are writing a book on this, so I am going to keep the more theological section here brief, but I also feel like it needs to be shown in this article. The effect of Jesus’s death concerning humanity’s sins in 1 John (specifically but also every other reference) is to cleanse (kathatizo), or to remove (airo) sin, not to appease or satisfy. Thus, Jesus’ death as an “atoning sacrifice” functions as an expiation of sin and not the propitiation of God. This is exactly what is happening in the Day of Atonement, and it is the image John is using in the entirety of 1 John. There is not one image of God needing to be appeased in 1 John to forgive sin or cleanse.

What does “for our sins” mean? “For” can have many meanings. But Greek is specific whereas English is not. There are 4 words with 4 distinct meanings (with some minor overlap) in Greek for “for”:

  • Anti: this for that (substitution or exchange)
    • Eye for (anti) an eye, tooth for (anti) a tooth (Matt 5:38)
    • “Do not repay anyone evil [in exchange] for (anti) evil” (Rom 12:17)
  • Dia: Because of or on account of; from
    • one agent acting against another agent or on behalf of another 
  • Peri: Concerning, about (sometimes overlaps with Dia)
    • Conveying general information about something
  • Huper:  in some entity’s interest: for, on behalf of, for the sake of,
    • the moving cause or reason: because of, for the sake of, for.

In 1 John 4:10 and 2:2 we see peri being used for “for”, besides Mark 10:45 (anti “this for that”- substitution or exchange)9 all of the other New Testament uses of “died for us”, “died for me”, and “died for our sins” and its cognates are huper -about a benefit, or as the Creed above said, “on our behalf”.10 I’m not saying that Jesus did not do something in our place (although I would be careful with using the term substitution doctrinally) but he did this on our behalf- for a benefit or to rescue us (but not from the Father). 

Those 3 verses (Romans 3:25, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:10) are all of the references to “propitiation” in the NT. Hebrews 2:17 also uses a variation of this word and in context is about what the high priest does with the purification offering on the Day of Atonement. We’ve seen that all these mean expiations or show Jesus as the “mercy seat” when interpreted in the proper context of the Day of Atonement. 

We do not see that the scapegoat or the purification offering had to be killed to propitiate God’s wrath. To interpret these in this way is going beyond the text and meaning of the Day of Atonement shadow. In other word’s framing the text that was is reading into it, it isn’t a faithful hermeneutic. The primary question about the Day of Atonement goats is whether God is being acted upon (changed?) or is sin being acted upon. As we saw with expiation, sin is the force being acted upon. But with propitiation, God is being acted upon. Yet, the noun’s use in the New Testament is about Jesus being the place where we connect with God because of his High Priestly and expiating function. This makes sense of Paul’s most popular phrase for salvation: “In Him”- Jesus is where (the place- Mercy Seat) we meet with God. 

There are plenty of other corresponding verses that all agree with this methodology such as Leviticus 16; Romans 3:21-26, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:10; Heb 13:11-12; Matt 27:28-31; Heb 9:14-28; Heb 10:8-17; 1 John 3:5-8; John 1:29; Col 2:14; 2 Cor 5:21.


If you believe sin separates you from God, then every time you fall short or miss the mark, you’ll think or believe that God’s love has left or betrayed you or has turned His face from you. That is such a poor image of God’s character and against everything the Bible says about His great redemption story. It is counter to almost every thematic motif in the Bible. Have you been harboring the lie that keeps you from experiencing what God wants most for you? Are you wallowing in your mess because you haven’t claimed redemption? God is always with you.

God’s grace for your sin is stronger than your worst nightmare or anything the world can dish out.


Jesus didn’t come to make God love us.
He came to show us that God already did.

Sin is real. It has consequences. It can numb us, isolate us, distort our vision.
But it can’t separate us from God.

The cross is not a bridge to a distant God.
It’s the place where God meets us in the depths of our brokenness
And says, “I’m not going anywhere.”

Jesus is not your lifeline back to God.
Jesus is God – reaching, rescuing, embracing.
Always has been.
Always will be.


  1. https://www.gotquestions.org/plan-of-salvation.html ↩︎
  2. https://bible.org/article/gods-plan-salvation ↩︎
  3. https://www.openbible.info/topics/sin_separates_us_from_god ↩︎
  4. https://bible.ca/ef/expository-isaiah-59.htm ↩︎
  5. Carpenter, Humphrey (2006) [1978]. The Inklings of Oxford: C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, and Their Friends. HarperCollins. ISBN 978-0-00-774869-3. ↩︎
  6. https://pauldazet.substack.com/p/sin-doesnt-separate-us-from-god ↩︎
  7. IBID ↩︎
  8. IBID ↩︎
  9. In the image of the Exodus there was actually no substitution or exchange but that Jesus’ life was costly and his death and blood saves us from Death. Also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSqtE13v5k for a full word study on “For us” and all its uses in the NT. ↩︎
  10. Some of the most prominent sacrificial “For Us” verses in the NT that use huper (not anti): Rom 5:6-8; 1 Cor 15:3-5; 2 Cor 15:14-15; Gal 1:3-4; Gal 2:20; Eph 5:1-2; 1 Thes 5: 9-10; Titus 2:11-14; Heb 2:9-11. ↩︎
  11. IBID ↩︎

The Church Hustle

How the church creates a treadmill that exhausts disciples instead of shepherding in peace


There’s a certain kind of Christian exhaustion that doesn’t come from the world, It comes from the church. Maybe you have experienced this. I have been a part of several church plants. The first one was in a local HS and was “church out of a truck.” It took 3 hours to setup and a couple hours to break down. It stole our best energy that should have been used for shepherding. I vowed to never do that again. Or maybe you started attending a church and wondered “what is next?” or tasked the staff “how do I get to know people deeper here?” and were answered with something to the shape of, “start serving!” At times the kingdom does require tribulation, toil, and simply work; but it shouldn’t send mixed messages with the primary pursuit of the church to shepherd.

I call it the church hustle.

It’s what happens when discipleship becomes a to-do list. When spiritual growth gets measured by the offering plate, perfect attendance, your service record, or how many books you’ve read or podcasts you have listened to and reported back to your pastor this year. Barna says this is the number one reason people don’t trust churches.1

It’s the creeping pressure that says: If I just try harder, God will finally be pleased with me.

have you experienced this feeling? A subtle uncertainty that your church wants more of your assets when you are just hoping to be shepherded? We rarely say it that plainly. But we’ve felt it.
The unspoken message: You’re not quite there yet… but maybe if you pray more, serve more, repent better, or climb the next ladder, you’ll get there. Is that the message the church is sending?


Richard Rohr (you might remember him from our liminal spaces post) recently named this dynamic with piercing clarity. He calls it “spiritual capitalism”, the belief that we can somehow earn our way to spiritual success.2 Spiritual Capitalism has shaped American churches, political movements, and personal financial strategies. It views free-market capitalism as divinely sanctioned and tells people that if they work hard, give enough, and believe enough, wealth and deeper spiritual alignment will follow.3

This kind of thinking is far from the texture of shepherding in the Bible. It creates a theology of pressure. A treadmill masked as discipleship and will burn out our body dynamics with things that have very little kingdom methodology.


We’ve spiritualized the very mindset Jesus came to free us from.4 We say we believe in grace, but we measure ourselves by performance. We don’t view grace as a reciprocal unending gift to be accepted and returned in the way we live out the love of Jesus. We talk about love, but we form people through fear.
We preach mercy, but we disciple for control.

Have you experienced this, pressure confused with passion, and metrics confused with maturity. I’ve seen people carry deep shame for not living up to standards God never asked them to meet and it is devastating to people’s spiritual identity and the mission of the church.

And even now, in a much healthier rhythm, I still catch myself slipping into hustle-mode, believing that if I don’t produce enough, lead well enough, or fix everything around me, I’m somehow less worthy.

NOTE: There is of course a need to live out Jesus in your gifts and that includes serving in a church context. We need that and we need it in a better context for shepherding and discipleship.


The life of Christ was many things, urgent at times, disruptive often. but never frenzied.5 He lived in a sacred sense of shalom. Never performative. Jesus didn’t hustle His way to holiness.6 He moved at the speed of Love.

When He invites us to “take my yoke upon you… and you will find rest for your souls,” He isn’t calling us to a hustle. He’s offering us a different kind of shepherding, one marked by humility, mercy, and presence. Follow this link for more on that kind of leading.

But so many churches, while preaching grace, disciple people in fear.

  • We build cultures where burnout is seen as faithfulness.
  • We equate spiritual growth with spiritual productivity.
  • We tell people God loves them… and then hand them a list to prove it.

No wonder people are walking away.


Rohr also names the damage done by misreading Matthew 5:48: “Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” We turned that into a mandate for moral flawlessness instead of what it really is: a call to boundless love.7

Perfection, in Jesus’ language, isn’t about never messing up.
It’s about expanding love beyond what seems reasonable, even to enemies.
It’s about letting God’s perfection flow through us, not manufacturing it ourselves.8

But we turned it into a weight. And people carried it until they broke.

I don’t preach alot but here is a sermon on a better view of perfection.


If you’ve been hustling, hear me clearly:
You can stop.

You don’t have to climb your way into God’s love.
You don’t have to earn your way into grace.
You don’t have to be perfect to be held.

The church doesn’t need more hustlers.
It needs more people who are learning to rest in grace and be formed by love.

You can step off the treadmill.
You can fall into mercy.
You can breathe again.9


What Formation Could Be

Spiritual formation isn’t about spiritual accomplishment. It’s not about reaching a higher rung. It’s about becoming more open, more surrendered, more grounded in your belovedness. More transparent before God and those you are in covenant with.10

It looks like…

  • Slowing down enough to hear the voice of Love again.
  • Releasing shame-based religion for grace-centered transformation.
  • Letting prayer become presence, not performance.
  • Trusting that you are loved, not because you got it right, but because you belong to a God who is endlessly merciful.

  • Where have you felt pressure to perform spiritually?
  • How has the church hustle shaped your view of God, or yourself?
  • What would it look like to embrace a formation rooted in grace, not effort?
  • Where might Jesus be saying, “You can stop striving… and come rest”?

If you’ve been caught in the hustle, you’re not alone. And you’re not a failure. You’re tired. And grace is calling. Come down from the ladder. There’s nothing to prove. There’s only Love, waiting to catch you.

This Article was written by Dr. Will Ryan and Paul Dazet.

  1. https://www.barna.com/research/changing-state-of-the-church/ ↩︎
  2. https://discere.svbtle.com/spiritual-capitalism ↩︎
  3. https://relevantmagazine.com/current/oped19/why-so-many-christians-are-rethinking-capitalism/ ↩︎
  4. https://www.umc.org/en/content/reconstructing-burned-out-faith-with-brian-zahnd ↩︎
  5. https://rachaelstgermain.com/2019/05/22/christ-the-model-for-an-unhurried-and-undistracted-life/ ↩︎
  6. https://opentheo.org/i/6250996282790685099/the-life-and-teachings-of-christ ↩︎
  7. https://www.franciscanmedia.org/franciscan-spirit-blog/lent-with-richard-rohr-commandment-as-a-big-push-over-the-top/ ↩︎
  8. https://reknew.org/2012/05/how-the-imperfections-of-scripture-reveal-god-perfectly/ ↩︎
  9. https://ntwrightpage.com/2019/11/05/grace-changes-everything-the-way-we-boast/ ↩︎
  10. https://dwillard.org/resources/articles/spiritual-formation-what-it-is-and-how-it-is-done ↩︎